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Re: [RC] 2006 Big Horn 100 - Joe Long

On Sun, 23 Jul 2006 21:34:23 -0700, Laney Humphrey
<laneyhh@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Joe Long wrote:
...
Vets and well-marked trails, yes.  Drag riders -- nice to have, but
hardly necessary.

IMHO, whether drag riders are necessary or not depends a lot on how RM 
wants its ride perceived by MOST people.  Many, if not most, rides 
today, have drag riders so they are expected.  If RM chooses not to have 
them, that should be made very clear from the outset so riders know not 
to expect help from behind.

I never had drag riders at my rides because I didn't have enough
volunteers to have them.  I'd say that over 90% of the rides I've done
did not have drag riders.  In my experience having drag riders is the
exception, not the rule.

What people have a right to expect at an AERC ride are competent vets,
well-run vet checks and a well-marked trail.  Everything else is "nice
to have" but not essential to a good ride.  I'll take those
fundamentals (and, of course, good scenery) over drag riders, checks
in camp, meals, fancy awards, and such every time.

...
Joe, you and RM, IMHO, are blindsided to this year's reality at Big 
Horn.  In most years, from what I've heard, the ride is do-able but 
tough and should be attempted by only the most experienced.  

Rides like the Big Horn are tough, yes, but to say they "should be
attempted by only the most experienced" is going way too far.  They
are not the best choice for a first 100, but even that is doable if
you have a mentor riding along.

This year's 
ride did include unusual challenges - having to reroute the trail being 
the biggest from what I'm reading but also the heat - which RM did not 
appear to accomodate.  

Accomodating such things is not as easy as you seem to think.  I've
had to re-route a ride "on the fly" staying ahead of the riders, due
to flash-flooding of the creeks -- it isn't easy.

I've ridden rides that were acknowledged to be 
long where RM extended the finish time; I've ridden rides in extreme 
heat where pulse criteria was lowered in order to slow people down & 
where additional holds have been added.  There were plenty of very 
experienced riders on very good horses who could not complete this 
year's ride.  That should send up red flags.  One of those experienced 
riders is one who lost his horse.  Another red flag in my opinion.

I don't have the exact numbers, but didn't over 50% of the riders
complete?  There have been many 100's that have had fewer than 50%
complete, some fewer than 30% complete.

Holds and pulse criteria are a matter of judgement, and as I was not
there, I will not second-guess those decisions.

In my not-so-humble opinion, anyone who wants to experience the finest
and most beautiful challenge that our sport has to offer, will do the
Big Horn 100 at least once.  You really haven't had the full endurance
experience without it.

Several of us have posted very similar opinions about the reality of our 
sport today.  None of us is arguing for doing away with tough, extreme 
rides such as Big Horn but we are saying that rides need to be designed 
for the rider of today.  

Gawd, I hope not.  Not if the "rider of today" wants all of the
obstacles removed, and his ability to complete guaranteed.  And why do
you keep saying "extreme ride?"  The BH is tough, but it is not
extreme IMO.  I have some rides that I would call extreme, such as the
1980 Heart of Dixie (due to horrendous weather conditions) and the
1987 Race of Champions (where only 16 of 88 experienced riders and
horses finished).

The most successful leaders lead by following 
to paraphrase a friend of mine.  If  people want to have extreme rides, 
designed to be beyond the abilities of most riders, they should go 
ahead, but not seek AERC sanctioning which opens any ride up to anyone.
Laney

Whoa!!!!  Now you've done  quit preachin' and gone to meddlin'.  AERC
should not sanction tough rides?  The day our sport comes to that
pass, is the day I move on to something else.
-- 

Joe Long
jlong@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
http://www.chiprider.com

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