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Re: [RC] [RC] Permanent trail marker materials - Truman Prevatt

The only restrictions we have in FL State Forest is if you attach to a tree you have to use Aluminum nails. Why, I asked since they are a pain to drive. The reason I was told - if the tree is harvested and a saw blade - either sawmill or chainsaw hits a steel nail it can create a dangerous situation. They cut right through an Al nail.

Truman

Don Huston wrote:
Part of the problem here in SoCal is that it is against the law to nail or attach anything to any tree including picket lines, tent lines, lanterns, etc. The fiberglass posts have worked very well because they can be placed in just the right place to prevent confusion, stand alone and spring up after being run over without being damaged or doing damage to the runner. Of course they are ruined by fire which is ideal for Calif because CalFire (our state run fire dept) believes in using the "Fire Storm" burning method where residents are fined for clearing their land until there is enough fuel to support a major fire where absolutely nothing is left, no signs, brush, trees, powerpoles, bridges, guardrails, houses, nothing. CalFire don't want no stinkin' trail signs stickin' up out of that nice scorched landscape. Someone might think it was silly little controlled burn.
Don Huston


At 05:48 PM 2/17/2008 Sunday, Truman wrote:
They are fiberglass. Fiberglass doesn't burn but the resin melts. The local State Forest bought a bunch of these spent a lot of money with doing a lot of research. The first controlled burn, all in the burn area were laying on the ground.

Truman

Karen Sullivan wrote:
Our county bought some for part of the trail system. From our
perspective of trying to buy more, and somewhere from 50 to 100
they are way pricey...about $10 each for post and spike into ground....
and another couple bucks for the lettering.....nice stuff if you can afford it



On 2/17/08, *Don Huston* <donhuston@xxxxxxx <mailto:donhuston@xxxxxxx>> wrote:


Hello Angie,
http://www.glasforms.com/products_layout.htm
Here is San Diego the County uses these flexible fiberglass markers
4ft long with various labels. I do not know the cost but the labels
remain readable for many years and the post itself is unfazed by our
weather. I recommend the Dual-Flex or the SignPost models that
support decals on both sides.
Don Huston


At 12:56 PM 2/17/2008 Sunday, you wrote:
>Just curious as to how other forest have marked their permanent
trails.
>At Pigeon Mtn. we have used oil based paint on trees, but it
fades away
>and it's a mess to work with. I remember that in Vermont they had
what
>appeared to be the lids off paint cans nailed on the trees. At
Biltmore
>they have plastic arrows stapled on. I'd be interested in what is the
>average life of any of these methods of marking. There used to be
lots of
>Competitive Trail & Endurance events at Pigeon but since 2002 there's
>been nothing. Since the same people who ran the rides put in the
>permanent trails up there the maintenance of them has gone with
the ride
>managers. I'm guessing that since the Appalachian Trail uses paint it
>must be the standard. Just wondered if anyone had figured out
anything
>better.
>
>Angie McGhee
>http://www.lightersideofendurance.com
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Replies
[RC] Permanent trail marker materials, rides2far
Re: [RC] Permanent trail marker materials, Don Huston
Re: [RC] [RC] Permanent trail marker materials, Karen Sullivan
Re: [RC] [RC] Permanent trail marker materials, Truman Prevatt
Re: [RC] [RC] Permanent trail marker materials, Don Huston