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Re: [RC] [RC] QUARTER HORSE PEOPLE - HELP! - Sky Ranch

Here's something funny -- the first time I saw a photo of Secretariat, I
thought he was a quarter horse.  I'm not kidding....

Carla Richardson
Colorado

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "steelsidedown" <Steelsidedown@xxxxxxx>
To: "Ridecamp" <ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 8:45 PM
Subject: Re: [RC] [RC] QUARTER HORSE PEOPLE - HELP!


I think part of the trouble explaining this is our mental picture of a
modern TB.  Most of the "historical" TBs have a very heavy QH build by
todays standards.  Here's a site with pictures AND info -- you'll need the
info, as you can't tell the TBs from the QHs in most of the pics!
http://www.circledhorses.com/some_great_horses.htm

Jen


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sky Ranch" <skyranch@xxxxxxxx>
To: <ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 8:04 PM
Subject: Re: [RC] [RC] QUARTER HORSE PEOPLE - HELP!


The formula, the limit on TB blood, just does not wash with me.  The
early
*true* foundation horses DID have TB blood, quite a bit, in fact, and
also
Arabian and other breeds.  In fact, some of the QH foundation horses
were
100% TB, registered TB.

My grandfather (E.G. "Gus" Scroggins) is in the AQHA Hall of Fame.   He
knew
how a performance horse should be put together, and he liked TB's.  He
is
in
the Hall of Fame because he was an inspector and a judge in the early
days
of AQHA (1940's and 50's), traveling around inspecting horses, helping
to
establish the registry.  Horses were inspected for conformation, and if
they
met the standard they could be registered as a QH.  The QH was supposed
to
be a horse that could do it "all."  A true performance horse.

To say that a foundation QH qualifies just because he doesn't have TB in
a
set number of generations?  That's not really a good definition, imho.
If
you want to really say you have a "foundation" type of QH, then go back
to
the early standard and look at the type - conformation - *not* the
pedigree.
The early pedigrees were often VERY vague, because the horses were
crossbred, grades, or purebreds that they didn't want to *admit* in the
pedigree, if you get my meaning.

There were plenty of TB's and Arabians in the early QH.  Especially the
much-revered King Ranch of Texas -- for example one of their foundation
sires, Old Sorrel, a thoroughbred, was used extensively in their lines.
They did a lot of close, or line, breeding to cement the look,
performance,
cow, and speed, in their horses.  The dished face and small stature of
the
early King Ranch horses, as well as the great cow sense, and the nimble
footed cutting horses owe a lot to the Arabian and Spanish lines.

As most of you know, the horse that has completed the most Tevis Cup
rides
was a Quarter Horse.  I think that's pretty great.  Anyone who's working
to
produce that type is my kind of QH breeder!

Carla Richardson
Colorado


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