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Re: [RC] Answer to Angie - Tivers

In a message dated 8/3/2005 11:24:04 AM Pacific Daylight Time, sandy.l.holder@xxxxxxxxxx writes:

Irregardless of your reasons for becoming reactive or reactivated on Ridecamp, I'd personally enjoy continuing to learn from you, in this environment but would like to request of you and others to please stop stooping to the low levels of name calling that have occurred.  I would like to continue learning in a progressive environment.


I will not be bullied, or even influenced, by authoritative-sounding idiots. Many are. I've been in the horse business for 33 years and have always fought the verbal battles so that my warriors could continue on doing things differently without having to fight those fights as well. I will continue that practice until I die. It's the least I can do for those working hard on the front lines. I don't expect you to understand this, and, in truth, I don't care if you do.

As they say, sometimes you have to crack some eggs if you want to eat. There are dozens of my people on RC, among them, Bill Proctor, who has done a great deal to benefit endurance. You can see what they've tried to do to him, simply because he was reporting exercises that some droolers didn't think with possible, and   doing experiments with carbohydrate supplementation that others found to be against their "religion".

These are extremely ugly people, Heidi the ringleader. She is a legally disciplined vet whose license was taken away for some serious infraction--I don't know that story, and don't give a damn about what brought her down--except that she is a legally proven liar and continues to lie, just to hurt another innocent person. She and her little cabal deserve all I can give them. Whether that offends the sensibilities of some or not. What is just, is just.

Some, like yourself, prefer the Disneyland view of life. It's very peaceful and pleasant, so long as you can deny the realities around you and can remain passive and uninvolved. That's ok--different strokes for different folks. But history has taught us, over and over again, that passivity in the face of naked aggression is worse than a big mistake--it is immoral in itself.

So save your comfortable sanctimony for someone else. doesn't sell here.

ti