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Re: [RC] LMMR part two - Barbara McCrary

Heidi written an excellent message regarding trails and damage, all of which
I agree with.  We've had decades of experience both building new trails and
repairing damaged trails.  Her observations are right on target.  Regarding
2), we too have noticed that horses create stairsteps (Heidi used the term
"cup", same thing) and bicycles create ruts....bad news.  I hate to slam
bicycles on trails, although I'd really prefer they didn't share horse
trails.  I have to think about what's fair to all.  The bicyclists are a
strong voice in our area against the typical public attitude of keeping
everyone but hikers off the trails.  They are the horsemen's allies in our
fight to keep our public trails open, so whether we horsemen like them or
not, we need them as allies.  In some of our state parks there are allowed
bicycle trails and designated horse trails.  The occasional bike riders will
ride where prohibited, but I haven't seen an epidemic in the parks where WE
ride.....perhaps in some of the other parks.  Then again, there is one state
park where horses are forbidden by requirement of the people who gave the
property to the park system, but where bikes are permitted.  The horsemen
are unhappy about this, but the recourse is to give up the land back to the
family.  They are adamantly opposed to horses in the park they gifted to the
state.

Barbara

----- Original Message -----
From: <heidi@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <greymare56@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: <mmieske@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 7:54 AM
Subject: Re: [RC] LMMR part two


1)  Whether this is an issue depends a lot on the soil types.  I've worked
in areas where horses could go through and make a muddy mess like this and
in two weeks, you'd never know anything had gone on there.

2)  Erosion is also an issue.  If the area is relatively flat, then you
are not apt to get erosion from the traffic, hence no issue.  If it is
steep, it is a whole nuther story.  Additionally, horse tracks tend to cup
the water, whereas wheeled vehicles cause ruts that REALLY start erosion
going--so horse use in such instances is far less of an issue than, say, a
bicycle race...

3)  Many times the "damage" issue is blown WAY out of proportion by
regulatory agencies and is an excuse for them to flex their muscles.

In any event, you have to know your area and know how "real" the threat of
long-term damage is.  In many cases it IS real.  But in many other cases,
it is negligible.

Heidi


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Replies
[RC] LMMR part two, Maggie Mieske
Re: [RC] LMMR part two, Karen Sullivan
Re: [RC] LMMR part two, heidi