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The hay guy I bought from up here in Northern Arizona told me that he didn't 
think the winter prices were going to go up because many farmers that had 
sold their hay fields to developers got their fields back and grew hay and 
there should be a "glut" for winter.  I wonder if I should believe that?

I am very cautious about buying hay, too, but you can't win them all, 
especially if you weren't able to weigh the load.  I might have been 
hesitant, when they switched to per bale pricing.

Don't burn anything down.  Just go for a ride and know that kharma is 
working.



As Winston Churchill said, "No hour of life is wasted that is spent in the 
saddle."  As Shakespear wrote in Henry V, "When I bestride him, I soar, I am 
like a hawk; he trots the air, the Earth sings, when he touches it; the 
basest horn of his hoof is more musical that the pipe of Hermes."





> From: desertrydr1@xxxxxxx
> To: ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [RC] buying hay--a cautionary tale
> Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 02:39:28 -0400
>
> I'd like to get some opinions, because maybe I am too close to the 
> situation.? What would you think if you called someone about hay, and told 
> them you needed 10 ton.? Even discussed how much would fit on their 
> trailer, and they said 5 ton, so they would need to bring 2 trailer loads.? 
> They told you it would be about $270.-$275. a ton delivered, and you said 
> okay, bring me 10 ton of your hay.? Then they said it would be $13. a bale, 
> and they were bringing you 200 bales.? Would you think, like I did, that 
> the bales weighed about 100 lbs.?? Because after all, I was very specific 
> about needing 10 ton of hay.?
>
> Then when it got delivered, it looked like really nice hay, and they were 
> kind of in a hurry to get going, so you paid them cash ($2600.) and they 
> took off.? Then when you (a 56 yr old woman who weighs 145 lbs) picked up a 
> bale it seemed really light.? So you took some and wieghed 3 random bales, 
> purposely not weighing the first small bale you picked up, but trying to 
> find some that looked like they were among the bigger bales.? And finding 
> out that the bales weighed between 70, 75 and 85 lbs.? The guy said he 
> weighed some bails and they averaged 90 lbs.? Which is still a 22 bale 
> ton.?
>
> Would you feel ripped off?? Since you specifically asked for 10 ton, not a 
> certain number of bales?? At $13. a bale, with an average weight of 
> (generously) 80 lbs, that works out to $325 a ton.?which is $50 more a ton 
> than the guy originally quoted.? I called him and he told me I could come 
> out and pick up 20 more bales for free.? I figure he owes me 50 bales.? I 
> don't know how to get a satisfactory resolution, in part because I've 
> already lost my temper with the guy.? The last thing he said before hanging 
> up on me was either come get 20 bales or shut up.? I have nothing to haul 
> with.?
>
> My son generously offered to burn down the guy's house.? I strongly 
> discouraged such an illegal act, but the thought did occur to me that 
> sometimes hay spontaneously combusts.? Any suggestions appreciated.? Of 
> course I paid cash and didn't get a receipt.? This is the first time I have 
> had such a bad experience buying hay, and the other farmers I have bought 
> from over the years have been totally honest about the hay weight.?
>
> jeri



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