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Yes Janelle, here in PS region the LD's are primarily charged the same
fees as 50's, yet we're not considered "endurance" riders, only in
training.  It's not about T-shirts, dinner or wine glasses.  It's about
being considered equal within AERC, but also pertaining to each given
level of riding.  I really could care less about awards because I ride
for the fun of it, but I have to admit there's a discrepancy in
principle embroiled in this topic.  Why do endurance "old-timers" keep
whining about this topic coming up (again), and keep making LD-ers feel
bad for asking questions about points, standings, or whatever else?
We're all supposed to be learning from each other here.  I've learned a
lot about AERC within this topic here.  

So, thank you to those who have some patience with the newer folks, but
I for one, resent being called a whiner for asking pertinent and
valuable questions.  Newbie questions may not be valuable to the
mucky-mucks who are way up there on the "endurance" totem pole, but they
are to many others.  And maybe to some others who are just starting out
and are wondering about the rules and workings of AERC.  For those of
you who have taken the time to answer various questions of relative
newbies or preferred LD-ers with patience and kindness, thank you!  For
those of you who have called new riders whiners and have been rude and
condescending in your replies, shame on you.   YOU are the ones who make
"the little people" want to leave and who give AERC a bad name.  Sheesh!
A little patience and compassion goes a very LONG way.  If you're sick
of the "whiners," don't reply!  For the most part, thankfully, I've seen
some very helpful people on this forum.  :)

Carrie 

-----Original Message-----
From: ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jannelle Wilde &
Adam Falk
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 8:06 AM
To: rides2far@xxxxxxxx; ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [RC] LD weird logic and future repercussions to those who
start LD debate! :-)

So I gather that in some parts of the country, all distances are charged
the
ride fee.  In the NW, all distances are charged differently.  While I
think
that it is fair to charge the same as the trail takes the same amount to
mark (tho more is required for longer distances), the awards cost the
same,
etc.  However, when I made a comment about it, one of the responses I
got
was that we'd probably see fewer and fewer riders in total.  (Regional
tradition, I guess.)

That being said, on the rides where I offer a 100, we might have a pot
luck
in the evening at the vet check to greet the 80s and 100s, but no
official
meal.  And we don't do the awards until Sunday morning.  If you leave
early,
you can pick up your shirt, or whatever.  I give the 100 awards out
first so
they have their pick of size or type or whatever.  And I've seen a lot
of
RMs doing this out here.  

So we try to give consideration to the longer distances and acknowledge
their accomplishment as being different than others by trying to treat
them
at least as well:)

Jannelle

Jannelle Wilde & Adam Falk
584 Romie Howard Rd.
Yoncalla OR 97499
541-849-2460
866-241-1531 (toll-free)
www.mfarm.org & www.wildeivey.com


Can I have a break on AERC
> fees under your logic?


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