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Re: [RC] Guns at ridecamp - Beth Walker

Last time I looked, California law was that glove boxes were specifically a no-no. Weapon has to be in a locked container, unloaded. I think it also has to be in a different compartment; i.e., in the trunk of your car, but I would have to check on that.

On Nov 1, 2007, at 8:56 AM, Truman Prevatt wrote:

In Florida it is a "two move" law. It takes two moves before you can get it. For example if it is the glove box and is loaded that is only considered "one move" and would get you into a heap of trouble. If it is the glove box and unloaded, a locked glove box and loaded, in the glove box in a case loaded - those would be two moves and would be okay. Given the number of state troopers that have been shot in routine traffic stops in Florida - they are quite serious about enforcing that law. If you have a CCW, then if I remember correctly it has to be carried concealed in the auto, e.g. in the glove box, or concealed on your person but the two move rule does not apply.

I have a good friend that is a Supervisory Special Agent with the FBI. He tells me the FBI policy is - they could give a rats behind about who does or does not have a CCW or a handgun license. If they show up - everyone in the area of their control will be relieved of their firearms - resistance is a federal offense. As he says when they arrive, very quickly they are going to be the only people with guns.

When I carry a fire arm with me, it is in the LQ part of the trailer. That falls under the definition of "your home" so your rights are much more robust. That way I'll have it with me in case I have to shoot a runaway generator.

I learned a long time ago from a very good group of special ops guys that the best defensive weapon you have is your awareness of the situation. These guys were very good at getting a mission done without anyone ever knowing they were there - which was the only way the missions they were on could succeed. That's exactly how I approach the trail. It's quite easy on a horse to know well in advance if there is someone in the woods with you and it's quite easy to work your way around them if necessary. In fact you should know they are there before they even detect you are there.


Beth Walker wrote:
Don't get me started. I live in California, where the laws are written so that - unless you have a CCW permit - you cannot have a gun in your car that is at all accessible in an emergency. And of course, in my neck of the woods, it is very difficult to get a CCW permit. Nice catch-22.

On Nov 1, 2007, at 7:34 AM, Susan wrote:

You know, the gun may not be FOR ridecamp. We do have to get there and to get back home. Now days, it's not safe for anyone to be on the roads alone...male or female.

*/Kristi Schaaf <iluvdez@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:iluvdez@xxxxxxxxx>>/* wrote:

    Mary wrote:
    this is more to have around the house and ridecamp.

    This just struck me as such a funny comment!! The way
    its written, it makes it sound like people actually
    specifically bring guns to ridecamp. Is this so? If
    so, why? To shoot the loose dogs? To shoot the loud
    generator? To shoot the person banging buckets at 3
    am? Or???


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Re: [RC] Guns at ridecamp, Susan
Re: [RC] Guns at ridecamp, Beth Walker
Re: [RC] Guns at ridecamp, Truman Prevatt