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The "big whip" theory works on some horses but not on others.  A reprimand 
on Beau or Beamer gets immediate respect.  A reprimand to Drako becomes 
out-of-control histrionics because he "loses his brain" and blames you for 
the "injustice of your actions" instead of getting a clear communication to 
him.  And I have to admit, not proudly, that I had probably used the orange 
stick for striking him out of frustration and thus creating more problems 
with Drako until I started seeking professional help.

I had no tools to really handle this horse and I had to get a lot of outside 
help for my communications with Drako.  Parelli offers some good tools and I 
am getting good results. Even by just reading about the "Horseanality" 
charts this month, I am beginning to understand at a deep fundamental level, 
HOW I should communicate with this hores.

I also had some good results with tempering my cues with Centered Riding 
instruction.

K.



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Karen Sullivan" <greymare56@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "Mary Ann Spencer" <maryann.spencer@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: <dodie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 9:52 AM
Subject: Re: [RC] [RC] Parelli (and other clinicians)


> On 8/25/07, Mary Ann Spencer <maryann.spencer@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > You are correct.   But so many resort to the 'old' brutal or semibrutal 
> > ways
> > when in a stress situation....... IE: so darn many times when a horse 
> > balks
> > at loading someone is always there with a big whip!!  People also need to 
> > be
> > taught when to quit............ and wait for the next time.
>
> yes...but.........here will be the next unpopular thing I say..sigh.
> Sometimes what that horse needs IS that big whip!!!  Especially the
> older, formerly well trained but now spoiled/dangerous/ornery horse
> who knows perfectly well how to load and unload politely; but has
> learned he can now push his new owner around....how many times do you
> see this person try to load the horse; the horse runs over the person;
> pivots hindquarters into person; kicks out at
> you-the-person-helping....so owner now re-circles the horse around and
> asks again, pretty please get in the trailer; does the whole
> NH-Parelli thingy....so as a result, everytime the horse does
> something BAD, he gets the reward of getting to circle away from the
> trailer opening and "set up" straight again...what is the horse
> learning?  That now, everytime he acts like a brat...he gets to go
> AWAY from the trailer opening;that horse will gladly pitch a fit and
> circle all day long.........
>
> Sorry, the walk away and try another day with THIS kind of horse will
> only reinforce he can be dangerous, disrespectful and pushy and NOT
> have to do what you want or need.  Like Sandy said...the person who
> gets called to help get Sweetums in the trailer is the one who gets
> stepped on and kicked!!!  This person is your no-nonsense friend who
> always seem to have well-behaved horses (without having to whomp on
> them), and yet...the owner of Sweetums will continue to buy the DVD's
> and tapes and spend $$$$$ on the clinics to try to become "friends"
> with Sweetums, and play games...and totally disregard the good common
> sense and help the ADVICE that the friend tries to give....
>
> This sound familiar to anyone?
> Karen
>
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