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Re: [RC] loose manure - Karen Sullivan

Hi Dawn,
Replying to all with some thoughts....
 
I am former owner of Dawn's horse.  I can't recall ever noticing a looseness that was cause for
alarm, but now that I think of it, this mare, and my mustang mare do have fairly big,loose piles.
I don't recall poops like a cow pie, though.
They are good drinkers, though, and are what I would consider well hydrated horses.  Same sort of feeding program as Dawn, i.e. grass hay mostly, some dried out pasture here.  Very minimal grain or supplements
 
Our Arab mare, on the other hand has been cause for some alarm in the past.  Her poops are
always small, well formed and very firm....I joke they are like deer poops.  She is not a good drinker.
I have asked vets about this and got the answer that she probably has a smaller, tighter rectum,for
one reason.
 
The mustang mare does piles so big we refer to them as "buffalo piles"
 
I do agree with the Panacur purge anyway....it's a good, inexpensive worming that may catch
encysted strongles.  I started doing it when our Arab mare DID test for strongyles, and it did make
a difference with her.
 
If you buy it from American Livestock supply (liquid fenbenzadole sold as cattle wormer), it costs about
$23 a dose (which is far cheaper then buying 10 doses of safeguard or the power pak). I used a big electrolyte syringe and found it was even easier to get down than paste wormer.  Any excess can be refrigerated. 
 
I have heard that sometimes loose stools can be an indication of sand in the gut....have you tested for that at all?  I live on very non-sandy soil, and  have never had any problems with sand colics....I do believe that Dr.Garlinghouse poo-pooed the idea of using small amounts of psyllium to pick up sand in the gut as being very effective..and the best thing to move material through  the gut was plain, old exercise, something my horses get on a very regular basis...however, it might be something to look into..
 
I would be also interested in any other ideas folks have....
Karen
----- Original Message -----
From: Dawn Simas
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 7:46 AM
Subject: [RC] loose manure

My new 7 year old mare has always had sort of loose manure piles and I've been trying to figure out why and firm her up...  I feed grass hay and LMF Super Supplement G (1 lb a day as instructed) and Grand Hoof.  She has a clean water source and grazes on pasture for turnout.  She's not been in any stressfull conditioning yet, just lightly ridden once or twice a week.  I've done fecal floats on her (I test my horses rather than worm them) and they were negative twice (spring and fall).  However, just to be sure, I went ahead and wormed her with Zimectrin Plus because of the loose stool two months ago and no change.  Here are other things I've tried:
 
Reduced the LMF supplement to 1/2 lb daily, and then most recently removed it entirely two weeks ago.
Added 2 lbs of shredded beet pulp mash daily. 
All supplements other than hay are fed in two separate feedings a day, rather than all at once.
Have also tried other hays (orchard grass and alfalfa) for 3 months.
Reduced grazing when the pasture was rich.
Removed entirely from pasture while she was at the trainer for 3 months.
 
None of these things effected her manure.  It varies anywhere from a pile of soft semi-formed apples, to a cow pie.  But never a nice segmented pile of apples like my gelding...  Is this a mare thing and hormones?  I'm new to mares...
 
Thanks for suggestions!
Dawn
 
 
Ms. Dawn Simas
Director - Wild About Cats
Wild Feline Conservation, Education, and Rescue
 


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