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RE: [RC] Some tough questions for those that sell the Boots.. - Mike Sherrell

With Peruvians it's not the joints, it's the suspensory tendons that are
their vulnerable point. The reason is that their hind leg angle when moving
tends to be not as vertical as with trotting breeds -- a trait called
"reaching under" and which is praised, cultivated and trained for in the
breed. When a Peruvian breeder or owner says they are looking for upright
pasters they mean that only relatively; a Peruvian with pasterns as upright
as a typical quarter horse would be labelled "posty-legged" and would be
uncomfortable to ride. Peruvians are relatively rare on the trail so I look
at a lot more trotting horses than trotting horse riders look at Peruvians.

I think that the under-reaching leg angle is bred for because part of the
smoothness of the ride comes from springing on those tendons. There are
plenty of Peruvian babies born "down at the pasterns", in the terminology,
that often have to be put down.

Theoretically with a Peruvian hoof trimmed to the horse's conformation would
be thereby trimmed to enhance the horse's gait, i.e., a properly-conformed
Peruvian, conformation encompassing the hoof, naturally gaits well. However
I will say that my heavily-ridden horses tend to wear down the outside of
their hinds more than the insides because at the gait they slide in close to
the centerline, whereas standing of course the legs are more splayed, so I
choose to trim for even wear rather than "balance" on this horse, so I guess
there is a conflict.

As far as "lasting longer", there are many, many Peruvians still chugging
well after 20, so choosing carefully will be rewarded.

Regards,

Mike Sherrell

Grizzly Analytical (USA)
707 887 2919/fax 707 887 9834
www.grizzlyanalytical.com



-----Original Message-----
From: ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Laney Humphrey
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 9:34 AM
Cc: Ridecamp (E-mail)
Subject: Re: [RC] Some tough questions for those that sell the Boots..


If I chose to be snippy, I'd point out that the Peruvian Paso breed has
been plagued by joint problems because of their conformation, but
instead I'll just say that there are millions of trotting horses with
very sloping (non upright) pasterns just as I'm sure there are PPs with
upright pasterns.  In fact, I discussed this with a PP breeder last
year.  She said she looks for PPs with upright pasterns because she
thinks they last longer.  But the real issue is how any hoof should be
trimmed.  Seems to me that some people hear believe that the hoof should
be trimmed according to the horse's conformation and others believe that
the hoof should be trimmed to enhance a particular gait.  That's an
ancient disagreement that won't be solved here!

I doubt there's an endurance/trail rider alive who doesn't love going
fast along "knee knocker" trails!  Enjoy!!!
Laney

Mike Sherrell wrote:
The angles of Peruvians' leg and shoulder bones differ from those of
other breeds. For example, it's easy to see from looking that a trotting
horse has more upright pasterns, for example. Furthermore, the path of
the foot differs at the gait ("a" gait, really; different Peruvians have
different gaits, and each Peruvian also has different gaits) from the
path of the hoof at the trot, striking the ground at a different angle.

I am an addicted trail rider, and for me not much beats the thrill of
gaiting rapidly down a narrow, twisting (but mostly flat) trail -- at
about the speed of a good trot. For me it's like gaiting in the show
ring except that it's about ten times as challenging to maintain the
gait under the rapidly-varying conditions.

Regards,

Mike Sherrell

Grizzly Analytical (USA)
707 887 2919/fax 707 887 9834
www.grizzlyanalytical.com

-----Original Message-----
*From:* ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]*On Behalf Of *Karen Sullivan
*Sent:* Thursday, September 28, 2006 8:27 PM
*To:* kimfuess; Spottedracer@xxxxxx; ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* Re: [RC] Some tough questions for those that sell the Boots..



    ----- Original Message -----
    *From:* kimfuess <mailto:kimfue@xxxxxxxxxx>

    Why would a gaited breed require a different type of shoeing or
    trimming?  Wouldn't a balanced, level, trim and good shoeing that is
    balanced and keeps the toes short be optimum for any horse?  I am
    just interested in horses going down the trail not about special
    shoeing for the show ring or shoeing that would exagerate a certain
    gait.

    *Hi Kim, I agree with this totally!!! Or, from the other
    perspective...if you have to deviate from a good, balanced trim to
    get a certain gait; that has just got to negatively impact on
    joints; tendons and ligaments and long-term soundness of the horse
    down the road....

    Karen



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