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Re: [RC] [RC] Flaxen, Sabino gene - Soli Sorokin

Sounds like she is a rabicano. She may have the sabino gene, but
usually there is more white on the face with that. She does not carry
the tobiano gene based on your description. Rabicano causes white
hairs interspersed on the coat (and the coat is often, but not always,
more "smutty" than the usual for whatever color the horse is). It also
usually causes white on the tailhead and interspersed within the tail
- anywhere from a few hairs to quite a few.

I would not expect her to produce any significant pinto coloration in
foals, but she may pass on the rabicano, or sabino if she does indeed
carry it.

Interestingly enough, the sabino that exists in TWH's and the one that
exists in other horses, particularly arabians, seems significantly
different in the possiblities for coat patterns. CMK arabians, which
seem to have the greatest incidence of the Arab-type sabino, often
have tall white socks and big blaze faces, often also having belly
spots. But you never see a maximum-expressed sabino as you do with TWH
lines that carry sabino. (This will be a foal born white, with some
very minimal body spots of color). You also don't see the
pseudo-tovero (tobiano-overo combination) colorations that sabino
produces in TWH's but does not produce in Arabians. My guess is that
these are two different genes that produce similar results and have
therefore been named the same thing. I do not think there is a test
for either sabino pattern.

Here is a picture of a colorful sabino TWH stallion. He does not carry
an overo or tobiano gene, and has sired everything from solid foals to
foals with "Arab type" sabino to foals colored such as himself, out of
solid mares.

http://www.dawsonwalkers.com/

I did own a rabicano arab filly quite a few years ago. She was a liver
chestnut, very dark, with white hairs on the flank and shoulder area
and a white tailhead with a few white hairs through the tail. Her sire
was black-bay and her dam was chestnut-gone-grey. Her sire was not
rabicano so I presume it came from the mare, but as she was grey it
was not visible. The filly actually had some black hairs in her coat
and to simply look at her one would think she might have been a very
sunburned black, but she was most definitely chestnut by genetic
testing.

~S

On 1/8/06, L gin <ladurgin@xxxxxxx> wrote:
  Interesting you mention this . My mare Honey  is 32/34 Arabian, double
registered  half-arab, and Pinto  BS.
   She is a greatgrandaughter of  Khemosabi- rest is Davenport,Crabbet- some
Spanish.
She was registered as a Chestnut as a foal with IAHA -- later I changed it
to bay---- but she probably is a chestnut with  sabiano gene.
    Body color is  goldenred color. She has two dime size or smaller white
spots on her shoulder (her only pinto type spots- present form birth)-- Two
white socks in front. She has a sprinkling of  white hairs on her body
mainly on her sides and back. Her mane and tail  are black in the center
with glaxen hairs on the outside-- "Skunking" I believe it's called. Whe has
a white crescent marking on her forehead and a snipe on her nose. She also
is "mealy mouthed".....
    I think she has all the colors. Her sire was a Tobiano/half arab
registered. Dam was a chestnut.
They said she'd throw pinto babies..... No she has never been
bred...certified pasture potato...though my daughter is thinking of breeding
her to  a pony for a high end Hunter pony.



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