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Re: [PNER] RE: [RC] Presidents Cup: (now horse longevity) - heidi

They do have points
incentives for riders however - but the rider doesn't have to campaign
the same horse. IMO this is for the benefit of the horse. (I have stated
before that I think the AERC award system encourages horses to be ridden
too hard). We often see our (USA) top horses compete in several 100 mile
races per season, and also 50's. Great accolades for high point
horse/rider team, but very hard on the horses.

Boy howdy, we will have to agree to disagree on THAT one, Steph.  While I
agree that the UAE riders are doing a great deal to prepare, the bottom
line is that when you put all your eggs in one basket for a race, the
risks to the horse seem to increase exponentially.  If I were in the
business of horse life insurance, I'd crank the premiums WAAAAY up on
horses that run top-level FEI rides, vs the ones that go do AERC rides
week after week.  Furthermore, we have such longevity in AERC that 1000
mile horses are practically a dime a dozen, and 2000 mile horses are not
at all unusual.  The air becomes a bit more rarified when the count gets
up around 3000 or 4000, but a sport that has so many people taking
fair-to-middling horses out and going 1000 or more miles is doing
SOMETHING right.

Yes, we have a ragged few who take the mileage too far.  I'll take that
any day over a race where well over half the entrants are pushing so fast
that they produce sufficient pathology (either biomechanical or metabolic)
to merit being pulled.  The stellar horses seem to come and go--and while
I hear claims that they are being retired to other disciplines, I'll bet
my next meal that a fair number are no longer suitable to go down the
trail.

Nope, the incentive to have to take the SAME horse to the next ride is IMO
one of the biggest PROTECTIVE factors we have in our sport here in this
country--it makes riders stop and think before they put their foot down on
the accelerator.  (Or at least it makes MOST riders think--there are
always a few incapable of that, regardless of what system you use.)

When they take season-long endurance out of the equation, it ceases to be
endurance as a great many of us know and love it.  One of the big bragging
points to me about AERC is that the horse is NOT expendable in the
equation.  If you can't take care of the horse well enough to FINISH this
race and be able to take it on to the next race, you ain't gonna
accumulate honors.  That is a bona fide star in our constellation, not a
drawback.  And it is this very aspect that I see as one of the biggest
problems with FEI.  IMO, as long as we have both, we have a semblance of
balance--our riders who "grow up" through AERC usually have that
preservation of the horse mentality instilled by the very fact that the
horse has to be able to go again next week or next month.

One of my favorite expressions as a ride vet is when a rider with a
pending problem comes up to me with the intent to pull and says, "We'll
live to ride another week."  That is what is missing in FEI.

Heidi


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Replies
Re: [RC] Presidents Cup: fast fast fast, Teri Hunter
RE: [RC] Presidents Cup: (now horse longevity), Steph Teeter