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RE: [RC] Man vs. Horse speeds & Shermans Gap at the OD - Mcgann, Barbara

Some ten years ago, I was at a ride put on in Sun Valley, Idaho (very steep 
terrain, skiers heaven).  The ride manager told us that when we got to the very 
top of the mountain that we would ride by an old cabin and then plunge off the 
backside of the mountain.  She warned us that we absolutely should dismount and 
walk and lead our horses down the mountain.

Now I very seldom walk (or run) on rides (that why we call them "rides"), but 
when I got to the top, the RM warning was ringing in my ears, so I got off and 
started down.  Before I got 100 yards, I had fallen hard twice.  My horse was 
very patient and would just stop, looking down at me like what in the world do 
you think you're doing?  At that point, I gave up and mounted him on the 
off-side (uphill side) and proceeded to ride to the bottom, just like I should 
have done in the first place.  It WAS steep, and rocky and slippery, but thats 
exactly why you needed to stay ON the horse!!

Barb McGann

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For those of you who haven't done a ride involving steep
ascents and descents, like the infamous Sherman's Gap at the
Old Dominion, take my word that you go down steep hills
much faster if you dismount and lead your horse. 2 legs
are nimbler than 4, I guess. I get off anyway because it
makes me feel sick to ride a horse downhill. And I usually
get off on long steep uphills because "if your horse can
only manage a walk, so should you" (time to feed carrots!)

Having grown up in this sort of terrain, one of the first things I like to
teach horses (once they have trail basics down) is how to round and go
downhill gracefully.  If it makes you sick to ride your horse downhill, I
would submit that perhaps he isn't doing it correctly.  But if he is, and
you still feel queasy about it, then by all means it pays to get off!  But
I've found over the years that unless it is durn near vertical, 4-leg
drive beats heck out of 2-leg drive any day!

I was fortunate to start out with a whole family of horses that went
downhill like greased eels--they taught ME what it felt like when it was
done right, and in turn helped me to teach other horses less gifted.

I personally hate to "waste" a downhill--that's one place where the horse
doesn't have to waste energy to carry my weight (since gravity is working
in his favor), and I've found that I can make time on a lot of timid
riders going downhill without any extra strain on my horse.

Years ago, Cliff Lewis wrote an article called "The Fat Man's Secret
Weapons"--they were rocks, downhill, and darkness.  It takes a pretty
tough horse to make time through the rocks, but most horses with decent
balance and athleticism can become downright good at downhill, and
darkness is mostly a rider hangup anyway...  :-)

Just my nickel's worth...

Heidi

PS:  Gene Nance used to put on a ride in central Oregon years ago called
"The Dam Ride."  It had a steep sandy downhill on it, and he used to brag
that no rider would go down it mounted.  I told him I'd be happy to take
the bet, but it was about three years before I was able to actually attend
the ride.  When I got there and asked him if the bet was still on, he
said, "Nope!  I've SEEN your horse go downhill!"  Sure enough, we jogged
down it easily and passed a dozen or more riders off leading their horses,
struggling...


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