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Re: [RC] [RC] [RC] re: Alice- how to keep your seat - Laurie Durgin

I ride in one too, cause I like english, but they aren't secure enough for me and my boy. So far it has worked for 4 hour trailrides at modest speeds.It is an Longreach Endurance by Outback saddlery, it is supposed to be a copy of the Syd HIll enduranc esaddle.I love Syd HIll, just can't afford them ., I got it on scratch and dent clearance for about 575$ usually goes for 900$ or so. It weighs 16 lbs, has only one flap ,is about 4" shorter than most aussies,I have to cut off the excess length from aussie pads to fit it. It is rigged english, and has closed cell foam panels instead of stuffing. It is only 23" long and is "shorter" than my 18" wintec 2000 whidh is about 26' length (which is for sale).It actually is similar in shape and flap length and rigging as my Wintec Almost the same, except it has poleys.I also use 'covered wintec webbers' as the fenders thay sent are too awkward to change easily and they are too stiff for me , I like more flexible leathers.
I believe" Australian connection" on the Ridecamp Vendor list has some Syd Hill endurance saddels made similiar (probably much better quality, but my leather seems decent quality).
I believe they sell a "coloma" or "somerset". I was oggling them, but the $ aren't in the picture now. I also wanted comfort, and the seat on mine is the only seat I have sat in that doesn't hurt my bones, I do use a good pad. Right now I am experimenting with a foam panel pad I made sewed to a wool western pad, cut down and bound to fit,over a tacky tack pad, which I used exculsively for a year, but need more padding than the tacky tacks have.
I think you just try what works, I just read someone who had a custome 2400$ saddle that caused galls, so at lest mine will be cheaper galls ,if they happen!!!(BTW, I made may own impression pad and it seems to not have any pressure points, but then I haven't done 50 yet. . . .



From: "Jonni Jewell" <jonnij@xxxxxxxx>
To: "terry banister" <terrybanister@xxxxxxxxxxx>,<ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [RC]   [RC] re: Alice- how to keep your seat
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 12:45:47 -0500

Oh, so sorry.....let me try again. The original Aussie saddles, that most
people refer to as "Aussie saddles" have very large flaps, that come very
far down on most horses (especially smaller Arabians) have a tendency to
cover way to much surface area of the animal, and thus, can hold in
excessive heat. And, because of that large amount of thick leather, they are
known to be very heavy. There are now models that some of the companies are
making that are designed with endurance in mind, even some with western
fenders instead of the large flaps. But, I would venture a guess that in
reality, you will not see a huge number of them at rides, especially with
high mileage riders, as they have found the issues I noted. Weight, fit, and
too much leather covering the horse.. (Oh, don't see many western saddles in
high mileage horses and riders either) BTW, no saddle brand is perfect on
all horses, without some soring in individual cases. Even "treeless or
flexible" tree saddles can, and HAVE made horses sore. (we won't talk about
the damage to horses my Orthoflex has done) I just happen to have seen that
many who try Aussie saddles, end up with a saddle that does not fit well for
the mileage this sport demands.
Jonni


>>> Clarification: The Polleys on an Aussie saddle are the "ears" that stick
up from the pommel on top of the saddle to catch the rider, and they don't
"cover" any part of the horse. Also, there are trail models and there are
endurance models. Just as an expensive Western saddle is too heavy for
endurance, so are the Aussie models that were not designed for that use.
Everyone has seen MANY sore-backed horses from rigid-tree saddles of every
make, including Endurance brands.<<<<<



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