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Re: [RC] Re:pacing anglo - Truman Prevatt

If you have to depend on your horse for travel, for work and yout have to spend many hours in the saddle day after day you want a light saddle horse with a gait that is comfortable to ride - no matter if it is called an Arab, a TWH, a Morgan, a saddlebred, etc. The the old time breeders valued and bred for those traits. A hundred years ago the "funky looking gait" people are talking about here was very valued in horses used for riding - now very few people know what it is.

As far as crossing gaited Arabs with a TWH, there was once a trotter ( could have been a pacer - don't have the book in front of me now and I probably chose the wrong name for his spelling :-)  )  named "Black Allen." He wasn't worth a darn on the track pulling a sulky because he would break into this funky gait. They could not use hobbles to keep him out of it since it was a square 4 beat gait. He was TB on top and Morgan on bottom and was registered as a Standardbred (he could meet the "standard"). Someone decided to try to breed him to the gaited stock at the time in the middle Tennessee valley.  What came out was an absolutely fantistic saddle horse with a very comfortable gait. Because of that old Black Allen has become know as Allen F1 - the first horse on the list of foundation stock for the TWH. He produced two great horses - Roan Allen and Hunter's Allen. Most every TWH today goes back to one of these two stallions. There are a couple 100 horses that are listed as TWH  foundation stock but old track reject Black Allen had a tremendious influence on the breed - especialy in the early days. The other horse that when into the mix were assortments of TB, standardbred (i.e. muts :-) ), Morgans and the Narraganset ( the breed that carried Paul Revere on his midnight ride ), Cananian pacers and any other horse that could be used to produce a good horse. There were several families of horses that were dominate and there is a lot of commonality in the foundation stock of the TWH and the American Saddlebred (especially the five gaited saddlebred).  I suspect the only reason Arabs weren't used much is there weren't many around in that area at that time.

So you never know what a "funky gait' will get you. Too bad we'll lost the giated Arabs.


Heidi Smith wrote:
There are too many variables, however, to tell. In general when you
cross an Arab with a walking horse you don't get the gait. If the Arab
is gaited and will gait free in the pasture, maybe yes.

That's because in the modern gene pool, the Arabs with that sort of
capability are a tiny minority, and in fact, the majority now are being bred
away from that sort of "jack of all trades" riding horse standard that the
old-timers strove so hard to maintain.



[RC] Re:pacing anglo, Dana B.
Re: [RC] Re:pacing anglo, Truman Prevatt
Re: [RC] Re:pacing anglo, Heidi Smith