[RC] Calm & Cool - k s swigartIn case nobody has answered the initial question yet: Calm & Cool contains valerian root (yes, and herbal) that has as its active ingredient L-tryptophan, which is forbidden not only in endurance competition but also USAE competition (whose drug rules are somewhat laxer than the AERC's drug rule). Yes, it can test positive. As for other calming agents that do not "test," some people say vitamin B-1 has that effect, but unless my memory is wrong, it also has the effect of causing dehydration, so I would also consider it to be contraindicated in an endurance horse. However, the intent of the AERC's "no drug" rule is not to ask the question, "does it test?" (since that depends on how diligent the tests are/may be), but rather, "does it have a pharmacalogical effect?" If the substance that you give your horse to calm her down, actually works for calming her down, then, by definition it has a pharmacological effect (if it doesn't have the effect, there is no point in giving it). So.......ANYTHING that you give your mare for the purpose of quieting your horse (i.e. tranquilizing her) is forbidden under the AERC's "no drug" rule if it works. The reason that it has taken so long for somebody to answer your question it that you were asking the wrong question. If you want to compete legally in AERC endurance, you are going to have to find some other way of quieting your horse down. Even giving large amounts of vitamin B-1 would be in contravention of the AERC rule (normal substances in abnormal amounts), even though it wouldn't "test" and you would be unlikely to get caught doing it. However, you could also probably give your horse a VERY small quantity of demorsedan (sp?), which would have a nice quieting effect, and since it is such a potent (and fairly quick acting) drug (there are no arguments among anybody that demorsedan falls well onto the drug side of the drug/nutrient line), it is unlikely that a sufficiently small amount would test positive by the end of the ride, especially if you are planning to take a nice long time to do it. "Does it test" is the wrong question. kat Orange County, Calif. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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