Re: [RC] Camping on the cheap and coffee - Milinda EllisLisa, Are you talking about a "deep cycle" battery (like a marine battery) or something different? We are also working on a "do it yourselves" LQ in our Sundowner. We didn't worry about A/C because we don't have it at home, either -- but did install oscillating fans (truck fans) at opposing corners of the trailer neck so we could sleep in relative comfort. That works quite well and doesn't pull a lot of "juice". In Texas, you'd better have something because it may only drop into the humid 80's at night! I think we found those fans at Walmart and they were pretty cheap. They've lasted about 10 years so far... We were also given an old travel trailer. It's very 1970's but who cares?! Now we have a water tank, pump, gray water tank, propane stove AND fridge, along with those funny little fold-down beds (which is good because we almost always have extra people tag along to rides). I prefer NOT to cook in the dressing room (but I have in the past and like that option). How do you get water to your "box" (which I'm having trouble visualizing) so you can shower? I now have to outfit another (much smaller) gooseneck for a trip to Kentucky the end of July and we'll want as many creature comforts as possible after that much time on the road!!! We need lots of CHEAP ideas as the cost of fuel (and then stabling, etc. once we arrive at KHP) will eat us alive! HELP!!! Milinda Ellis Beargrass Cleveland Bays Jewett, Texas ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Simpson" <simpson@xxxxxxxx> To: <Lra1222@xxxxxx>; <ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 11:19 PM Subject: Re: [RC] Camping on the cheap and coffee We are converting our gooseneck trailer to living quarters ourselves. When we were realistic, we decided to keep our main power sources as the deep cell batteries that I carry. (Thanks Ed, for helping Jim to hook them up so they'll last all weekend) I could have put AC in the rig, but with my work schedule and the time I finally arrive at ridecamp, the only AC plug in I'll ever get close to is the one on my power pole at home! That said, those who ride with me know that I'm not a morning person and I don't function well (actually at all :-) )with out my coffee. My most prized possession to date is a 12 volt coffee maker that plugs into the cigarette lighter in my truck or a 12 volt outlet in the camper. Watch the bigger truck stops when you are traveling. They make wonderful things for trucks that work well for quick, easy, camping solutions in horse rigs. I've seen everything from coffee pots to TVs and even ovens. Hardware stores sell 12 volt light bulbs that work in regular light fixtures. Car stereos will give you noise for crews that can't miss that ballgame. As for appliances, we found an old over the truck camper and stripped it out. Cabellos even sells a toilet seat that fits on you basic 5 gallon pail (great for the middle of the night). We've also seen the box that washer drier hookups fit into set high (above horse height) in the back of the goose neck horse compartment. Run you water back then install the hand held shower head, a few hooks on the ceiling for a shower curtain and a rubber catch tub on the floor. Instant shower stall with out getting the trailer wet when you don't have room to install a on board bathroom. Lisa ----- Original Message ----- From: <Lra1222@xxxxxx> To: <ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 4:49 PM Subject: Re: [RC] Camping on the cheapHi. I had to comment on this thread-- used to HATE camping! Being from the younger generation (i'm 20), I'm a bit spoiled by the A/C and heat athome.However, I am not lucky or rich enough to have a living quarters traileror acamper, so the must have things for me are: - a cheap fan (walmart) - cheap heater that runs on the little propane bottles (walmart) - home made table (sheet of plywood on 2 folding sawhorses) - propane stove (you can cook anything on one of these if you have the patience-- also from walmart) -a good attitude-- rain, mosquitoes, and humidity are real mood killers I used to sleep in a tent, but got smart after waking up at Carolina oneyearwith ice hanging from the roof! Now I sleep in the trailer-- I do have a gooseneck, so the BEST, MOST USEFUL, MOST APPRECIATED piece of "equipment" ihave (other than the horse) is a cheap mattress in the top! Sleeps better than my bed at home (provided I don't sit up and hit my head on the ceiling!!) Air mattresses have never worked for me-- tried about 5 ofthem---always woke up on a flattened bag! If you don't have a gooseneck--- sweep outthe back when you get to the ride, lay down an old piece of carpet(bigenoughto fit under your sleeping bag), a couple of the egg crate mats, and then your sleeping bag-- pretty comfy!! Hope you find something useful in the above-- Lindsey M21756 SE PS-- nifty trick we found this past summer while camping at the lake--- find an old portable AC unit (or window unit?)-- put it outside next to a window of the tent-- zip the window up around front vent of the AC-- allthecold air is blown into the tent--works good at night---- looks a little (okay, A LOT) redneck, but hey-- the cold air feels great!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. 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