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Re: antibiotics and digestion



 
>Will dry fat products cause loose stools?  I had decreased the oil from 2 cups >to 1 cup because of this problem...  If not, I will definitely add some Fat Pak to >her ration.  Will also try more BP at night and see how that goes.
 
Fat is still fat (it's just an animal-source saturated fat instead of unsaturated vegetable source, which is not an issue) and if you're getting loose stools frorm one, you might from the other as well.  Try splitting the "doses" of fat into smaller amounts, ie, half a cup twice a day rather than one cup once a day.
 
 
>So my original question is still not really answered and I am very curious.  >Does anyone know if antibiotics screw up gut flora enough that food doesn't >get properly digested in the internal fermentation vat?  
 
Well, some do, others don't.  Sorry, I know you're looking for a more specific answer than that.  Baytril is effective against both gram-negative and gram-positive bacteria, and since some of the bugs in the gut are in those families (along with protozoa and yeasts and all kinds of other little creepies), if you're dosing the horse with oral Baytril, then there's a reasonable chance that the hindgut population is being affected to one extent or another.  That doesn't mean the population has been totally destroyed and that no hindgut fermentation is going on whatsoever, it just means you're not really getting optimum fiber digestion right now.
 
Sorry about the ambiguous phrases here, but this is starting to creep out of the areas of nutrition and more into pharmacology, and I figure the best way to make sure I graduate vet school is to not pretend I'm a DVM until I hold the license in my clammy little hands. :-))))
 
 
> If this is the case, it might not matter too much what I feed her until I stop >feeding her antibiotics.
 
Well, it still matters, because not all food is going to be digested in the cecum.  A good portion of it will still be broken down and absorbed in the small intestine before it ever gets to the cecum.  And again, there is still hindgut digestion going on, just probably inhibited to one extent or another.
 
So maybe Dr. Ralston can jump in here, because clinical nutrition is *really* her forte---but my guess would be to keep feeding good quality hay because regardless of how much is being thoroughly digested or not, you still need it to maintain gut motility.  And keep up with the easily digested feeds, such as the Equine Senior, beet pulp and oil, because (depending on the feed) quite a bit of that nutrition is going to be absorbed in the small intestine before it gets back to the hindgut.  If she doesn't get silly about it, a little grain would go along with that as well, but because the microbe population is less-than-sterling, I'd keep the amounts small (maybe a pound a few times a day), so you don't get "overflow" washing back into the cecum.  Better safe than sorry.
 
How much good the probiotics are doing right now---well, who knows for sure, but they're not doing any harm and a little extra fussing right now wouldn't go amiss.  They'll come in handy once she's off the Baytril.
 
I know she probably looks really thin and rotten right now, but if she's bouncing around and feeling perky, I wouldn't get too concerned---once she's off the antibiotics, she'll start to pick up again and be just fine. :-)))
 
Good luck. :-)
 
Susan G


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