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Re: [RC] New incentive to enter 100's/HR jump - Lysane Cree

Hmmm, I guess I will keep an eye on that. It hasn't happened since, so I haven't really had anything to compare it to. If it happened at a time when she was feeling really good, I would probably be more likely to read it as a monitor error. I already knew she was tiring although she was still willing to keep going, even if not as enthusiastically, so I guess when I saw that spike I thought "Ack! I've pushed her to much!!"
Even if I was wrong about the blip though, I still feel I made the right decision on that day as I would have really had to haul butt to make the time and she was not up to that on that day.
 
Thanks,
 
Lysane

----- Original Message ----
From: sherman <sherman@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, October 8, 2008 2:23:45 PM
Subject: [RC] New incentive to enter 100's/HR jump

What I’ve seen with my horses and my several  friends that use HRM is that every single big scary spike is a misreading of the HRM. Most often a loose girth not making consistent contact, or a shifting saddle creating contact/no contact episodes. Even when the horse trips, spooks, etc, I’ve never seen a spike up around 200, more often only 10-20 BPM. The fact that your horse had no problems later would be an indication that the spike was not from being tired, from what I’ve seen. In other words, if you hadn’t seen that blip, you and the vets would have never thought there was any problem, right? If a spike happens again on a ride, I depend on the evaluation of the horse more than that spike to determine if the horse truly has a problem or not. Electronics aren’t perfect, just another tool to aid us.

 

The last ride I did was on two friends’ horses, two days of 50s, we all had HRMs, not one of them worked consistently all day and the biggest problem was them showing unreasonably high HRs when we knew it shouldn’t be that high for the speed and terrain we were on. Once we would get everything adjusted, they would be accurate for a while, but when things started shifting again (no cruppers and girth loosening during the ride), we’d get wild readings. We ignored it, the horses would always pulse down within 2-5 minutes all day.

 

Just something to think about when it happens again, because it probably will (:>)

 

Kathy

 

 

 

No I wasn't climbing. We were on flat terrain. Throughout the day I had been mainly trotting but doing some cantering and her heart rate would drop lower at the canter than at the trot, but I didn't do a ton of cantering because she is not used to doing it for really long periods of time. So at this point, I asked her to canter and she did, but felt tired, and that is when her heart rate jumped to 200. I pulled her back to a walk and it did hang there for several seconds before working its way back down. So I didn't think it was a monitor problem. But it sure freaked me out. We walked and slow jogged it back in to camp and the rest of the time the monitor had normal readings. There was one last climb near the end - not too steep but a long hill - and we walked up it slowly and her heart rate stayed around 140 if I remember right, no more spiking at all. At the end of the CTR, we have a pulse taken four minutes after our arrival time and then pulse and vetting 30 minutes later. She seemed perfectly fine at this point, drinking and very concentrated on eating. At the 30 minutes, all of her metabolics were good but she was off on a circle on the left hind. I don't know if it's possible that the spike happened because something hurt at that moment, but that the actual lameness only showed up once she had stopped moving and cooled down?? 

I hadn't really thought about it like that until now :)

 

Lysane

 

 

 



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