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Re: [RC] [RC] GFI Circuit Breakers + Frozen Water Buckets - Truman Prevatt

Val,

No you don't have gremlins, it sounds like you have poor grounding in you barn. Check the grounding on your breaker box. You might have to put in an extra ground rod - about 3 feet from the current one. You might also have a ground fault in another boxes, plugs or switches on the circuit. You might also might have a bad GFI. You say you have two, exchange the GFI's and see if the problem follows the unit. If not it's in your ground.

The GFI is doing it's job. It's telling you there is a ground fault.

Truman

Val Nicoson wrote:
Thank you all for your responses and I'll respond to each one providing the answers my husband gave me:

My husband has checked the load capacity and amperage and he says he is under this.

All wiring, plugs, GFI circuit breakers and breaker box are new. We have 2 GFI circuits, one on either side of the barn.

One side of the barn constantly trips even when reset even with nothing plugged in. Yet if he plugs in a 300 watt light and reset while the light is turned on, the circuit holds...even after the light is turned off...and will then hold often times 3-4 days, when it starts all over again.

The other side of the barn has been fine since it has been installed until last week when it got extremely cold. This is not the first time that the water buckets on this side has required power.
But in the night it tripped and this morning all the buckets were frozen...3 of them on that circuit. He reset the breaker this morning and it has held since and is obviously working as the buckets are not frozen.


Do we have gremlins or what?

Thanks for helping us trace this problem down.
Val

On Jan 18, 2008 10:13 AM, Sisu West Ranch <ranch@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:ranch@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

    *The GFI units are doing exactly what they are supposed to do. If
    you have an electrical device plugged into a normal circuit
    breaker, the breaker will not trip until the total curent exceeds
    the value on the breaker for a considerable time. This means that
    there could be a leakage (ground fault) in a water heater
    sufficient to give a noticable (or even fatal) shock to your horse
    and not even come close to tripping the normal breaker. One of my
    older vets in WI said that before the use of GFI's was part of the
    electrical code, he often got colic calls in the winter when a
    small leakage in a tank heater turned the water into a mini
    electric fence and the horse stopped drinking.*
    *With a GFI (it makes no difference if you are talking the socket
    kind or the breaker box kind) it will instantly trip, long before
    the leakage gets big enough to cause a noticable shock and
    everyone is happy. Usually the heater element is at fault, the
    cure is to buy a new one (much cheaper than a new horse or a colic
    call.). Many barns have old, neglected wiring and often old
    extension cords run all over the place to the heaters. Either of
    these can trip a GFI. You just have to keep resetting the GFI
    while removing suspect parts of the circuit. If you get to the
    wall and it still trips it is time to have the barn rewired.*
    *ED*
    *Ed & Wendy Hauser
    2994 Mittower Road
    Victor, MT 59875*
    *(406) 642-9640*
    *ranch(at)sisuwest(dot)us*




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[RC] GFI Circuit Breakers + Frozen Water Buckets, Val Nicoson
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