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Re: [RC] LD and Placings - Elizabeth Walker

First, AERC recognizes LD as a competition, and provides an LD program with various awards.  So - I don't agree with not giving ride placements and ride times.   I would bet there are some folks that think 50's are just "training" for 100's ....

However, the rules do provide for not giving out placements.   Rule L7 says:  If placements are given, they must be determined by rules L5.3 and L5.4.  

This appears to allow management to not give placements in a kind of back-handed way.  However, recording everyone as "1" doesn't seem right, and giving everyone the *same* time really doesn't seem right (man - must have been one heck of a finish!)   What this rule doesn't say is how time is recorded if no placements are given.  I have seen some rides where the results were simply listed as "completed" with *no* time being recorded.

I believe L7 is supposed (somebody jump in and correct me if I'm wrong) to be saying that points are not recorded for LD, as they are for 50's and 100's.  The wording is pretty confusing, though, and could stand some rewriting.

Personally, I would not want to go to a ride where I was planning on riding LD, and would not get any recognition other than mileage.  Some folks may consider that distance as "just training", but for a (growing) portion of the AERC membership - people are getting older, and some folks just aren't up to riding 50 miles, but still want to be part of the AERC community.   I see no reason to attend a ride where I would automatically be classified as "second class".

On Jul 2, 2008, at 5:32 PM, Karen Standefer wrote:

I recently attended an LD ride with my new horse as his very first ever ride.  The entry had the following comments which I whole heartedly agree with: 
"We will NOT be providing best condition or placing awards to the 25 mile or 10 mile distance riders, as this ride’s management views these distances as TRAINING and not as competition."
However, when the ride shows up in my horse's history, it shows us as completing in 1st place which really miffed me (I don't want anyone thinking I rode my horse that fast in his very first ever ride).   So, then I pulled up the results from the ride and discovered that the records showed us all as being first place with exactly the same ride time........all 23 of us!!! 
This strikes me as wrong.  I don't really care if I got any recognition for placements at the ride (I feel sure we were toward the back of the completions).  But, I would like my ride time because I DO consider the LD as a training ride and I'd like to have a history of it as such. 
I guess what I'm looking for is consensus?  Shouldn't this be changed?  I'm assuming this is part of the new LD rules that went into affect this year. 
I also would like to discuss being able to get out vet cards.  It's near impossible to commit all of the information on them to memory to be able to record later.  Why can't we have our vet cards anymore?  Are they really more valuable to AERC than they are to us?  If so, can’t there be some way that we can have a copy or something?????  It’s just not right that we don’t have a record of how the horse faired during the ride.

[RC] LD and Placings, Karen Standefer