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Re: [RC] Carbon Monoxide Poisoning - Mike Lewis

Ed,

Could you please provide model numbers for the type of batteries and
heater you're recommending, either here or via private e-mail?  I'd be
very interested in investigating this possible solution, and I'm sure
others might be as well.


Thank you,

Mike
--- Sisu West Ranch <ranch@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

"... wish AERC would consider allowing folks to run generators at night
to
stay warm with electric heat...  While this story deals with deaths from
a
generator, I know that generators kept outside the trailer and away from
the LQ section are safer than running propane in a horse tra..."

There is a completely safe, and quiet way to keep warm in a LQ all
night.

1. Set up with two or more large deep cycle batteries.  Properly done
this 
will run things for a minimum of 3 cold October days in MN.  You can run
a 
generator to recharge during the day and extend for as long as you want.
 In 
sunny areas solar panels are also an option.

2. Purchase and install a modern, outside air, propane furnace.  I said
a 
furnace not one of the ventless inside heaters, catalytic or not.  A
true 
furnace has the combustion space completely separated from the LQ by
steel 
heat exchanger.  When the thermostat calls for heat, a fan turns on.  If

there were to be a propane leak, the fan drawing outside air into the 
combustion space and venting it back out, will clear any fumes.  This 
prevents any explosion.  There is a switch that verifies that the air is

actually moving.  This prevents the flame from igniting if the fan
breaks or 
the outside air vents are obstructed.  When all is OK a spark starts the

flame.  If the thermocouple does not verify that there is a flame, the 
sparker tries two more times.  If no verified flame the gas valve shuts
off. 
This also prevents explosions.  By this time, the fan is blowing hot air

into the LQ.  If the air outlets have been blocked (say by wet clothing 
stupidly hung to dry), the temperature goes up and the furnace shuts off
to 
prevent a fire.

While I suppose, all of these safeguards could fail, an electric heater 
could also short out and start a fire or electrify a grill and
electrocute 
someone.


My bottom line: Spend the money and set up properly and you can be safe
and 
quiet.  We just spent a month camped out in our LQ.  We did plug in in
AZ, 
but for the nights comming and going we ran on batteries.  We were warm
and 
toasty even during the snowstorm in Ogden UT.

Ed
Ed & Wendy Hauser
2994 Mittower Road
Victor, MT 59875

(406) 642-9640

ranch(at)sisuwest(dot)us 



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