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RE: [RC] Why shoot the dog? - Ranelle Rubin

Lisa,

It will go to DOGTOWN! Just ask Barbara..:)

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> From: jsalas@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> To: tprevatt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> CC: ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [RC] Why shoot the dog?
> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 17:37:09 -0500
>
> Well Truman, the good news is a quick Google search found many animal
> control offices all throughout KY. Owensboro ( the farthest west I could
> find quickly) just transferred in a new officer from another county :) So,
> they are out there. As a matter of fact, looking up animal shelter or animal
> control brings up quite a bit in even the few "rural" states I typed in. We
> are getting ready to go into 2008, ya know.
>
> My point was in this world of instant gratification, why shoot the dog?
> (unless, of course the dog is viciously attacking you or a loved one. but
> that is not what the original post was, I don't think) Why not hold the
> owner accountable? The dog is their responsibility. You KNOW how I feel
> about that :)
>
> Well alright then, next time there is a loose dog in ridecamp, and it's
> charging people as they walk by or snapping at horses feet while they are in
> the corral, I say, SHOOT those son of a guns! That'll learn 'em! Let the
> owner file a protest. We all know where THAT will go }:- OH Noooo!
>
> Lisa Salas, the Oddf Arm
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Truman Prevatt" <tprevatt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: "ridecamp" <ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 4:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [RC] Why shoot the dog?
>
>
> > The law is pretty clear if a dog is on your property harassing your stock
> > and horses are stock, you have the right to eliminate it. It is probably a
> > lot less clear if the dog not on our property, but I am sure if the dog is
> > putting your horse or yourself at risk and you are not on the dog owner's
> > property then you can take whatever action necessary to eliminate the
> > risk.
> >
> > While most populated areas do have animal control - that is not true for
> > all rural areas. Where I grew up in Western KY didn't have any animal
> > control when I was a kid and they still don't. We had problems with people
> > dumping dogs "in the country." They would pack up and kill the cattle.
> > Every once in awhile we had to eliminate them and yes it involved camping
> > out with the herd and picking them off. That was the only solution. That
> > is what the Sheriff would tell you to do - in fact one time he sent his
> > son over to help us.
> >
> > I've been attack by a pit bull while riding my horse in my neighborhood on
> > a public trail. If I had my knife with me, I would have taken care of him
> > as soon as he started to attack. I was dumped, and she ran home only after
> > the dog had ripped hide on her chest - thank goodness she was too tall for
> > him to get her neck which is what he was going for.
> >
> > There are times where the chase routine doesn't work worth a damn. I did
> > it. I chased the dog a 100 yards - he ran. I turned to go home, he
> > attacked again. I turned and chased him a quarter mile - he ran. I turned
> > to go home again and he attacked again. When I turned to chase again - he
> > kept coming and jumped at her neck.
> >
> > I chased them home and by the time the owner (a drywall hanger that was
> > working in a new house and though it was okay to bring his pit bull and
> > let it run around loose while he worked) got there I had a dead bead on
> > the dog as it was chasing the mare around my pasture.
> >
> > He drug the dog off - then he talked to the Sheriff and then Animal
> > control (I lived in Sarasota at the time). I called 911 as I was getting
> > my shotgun and the Deputy notified Animal Control as he was responding. He
> > did pay for all the vet bills and he did pay a fine. If he had not shown
> > up would I have shot the dog in my pasture harassing my horse - in a
> > heartbeat.
> >
> > If a dog attacks you while you are one your horse the dog is in fact
> > attacking you. He is not only putting your horse at risk for injury - it
> > is putting you at risk for injury. It's a matter to be taken very
> > seriously. Of course there is a difference between a dog protecting its
> > territory and one being dangerously aggressive and they needs to be
> > recognized. And of course you should not take the law into your own hands
> > and just go over and shoot the dog. However, if the owners have been
> > warned and do nothing. If the Sheriff or Animal Control have been notified
> > and do nothing - you have two choices: stop riding or to protect yourself
> > while you do if the dog attacks.
> >
> > Truman
> >
> > oddfarm wrote:
> >> Valerie said, "If the dog has actually bitten your horse, and the owner
> >> has been warned, etc., I'm afraid you've little choice but to shoot to
> >> kill."
> >> What???? It might not be the Sheriff's job to come out on a vicious dog
> >> call, but don't any of ya'll have animal control services? I can't think
> >> of a single state that I have been in that doesn't have an animal
> >> control. They may not have human society's or SPCA's but they always have
> >> an animal control. That is who your vet reports your rabies vaccine to in
> >> order to make sure all animals have the vaccine. Animal control also
> >> investigates animal cruelty, dog fighting, cock fighting and animal
> >> bites. Some states have the 3 bite rule where after the third founded
> >> report the animal must be put down as they are considered vicious.
> >> Sometimes a dog is just a dog and they hunt the wrong animal (pet rabbit,
> >> chickens, cats) and kill it. That may be considered a vicious bite, as
> >> well.
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > “It doesn't matter how beautiful your theory is, it doesn't matter how
> > smart you are. If it doesn't agree with experiment, it's wrong” Richard
> > Feynman, Nobel Laureate in Physics
> >
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