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RE: [RC] shoeing in vet school - Ranelle Rubin

Susan,

My farrier works for our local vet hospital (Loomis Basin Equine) one day a week. I personally consider him a great farrier, pretty no-nonsense, kind to the horses, my shoes stay on (they are balanced!), and so far the only lameness I have had was a stone bruise on Tevis. Can't complain much about that.

One thing I put up with for almost a year, until I learned it was not right, was a farrier who did not know, (or care to learn) how to trim my horse perfectly balanced before putting shoes on. My horse lost shoes ALOT, and when you looked at the shoes that did make it 6 weeks, EVERY SHOE was thinner on one side than the other. When I asked him about it, he said it was because my horse did not travel straight. The final straw was when my horse lost a shoe two weeks into a shoeing. My schedule dictated that I really needed to ride that day, so I trailered the horse to him to get the shoe on. He was rude, charged me $30., and tried to lay the blame on me for the shoe coming off. I kept my mouth shut just to get my "flat tire" fixed. When I got home that night, I called him, cancelled my next appointment, and asked him not to call me to reschedule..end of story.

I was lucky to get on my current farrier's schedule. He said he was full at first, but a referral from a friend, and answering his well thought out questions about why I was changing shoers, got me in. I would say that if anyone ever needs the best farrier in the area, get in touch with the best vet in the area..they know.

PS..I drive an old truck, but use the best farrier I can find, and pay alot more for hay than I have to!

Ranelle Rubin, Business Consultant
http://www.rrubinconsulting.com
Independent Dynamite Distributor
raneller@xxxxxxx

916-663-4140 home office
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From: suendavid@xxxxxxx
To: greymare56@xxxxxxxxx
CC: ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [RC] shoeing in vet school
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 13:43:02 -0800

>*Susan....curious to hear what the current (you are "relatively" current vet) teachings are in vet school regarding proper hoof function, form and >physiology?.  Frankly, I would trust a vet over a shoer most of the time if I had questions regarding any hoof abnormalities, or pathologies.  I have >seen what I consider very few good shoe jobs in many, many years of owning horses,and have seen some real horror cases, with long toes, wedges, >etc......I typically see really high heels and long feet; or run-under heels and long toes,in my neck of the woods.....

>I wonder how much the current horse-shoeing schools are teaching hoof physiology, versus just how to file a hoof flat and nail on a shoe?

>Karen

 

 

The vet school curriculum teaches a lot of anatomy of the normal and abnormal hoof, a  few hours of lecture on form and function and a pretty fair amount on lameness diagnosis, disease, pathology and treatment.  If you’re equine track, then you can take quite a few elective rotations on lameness, but each case you see and review may or may not originate with the foot (you see whatever comes in the door, and since vet schools are usually a referral center, the cases tend more towards the exotic than every day navicular disease, but you see those, too).  As for actual coverage of things like angles for different disciplines, choice of shoes outside of actual disease, that sort of thing, it’s more limited because of time constraints, and the student is expected to pursue their own interests with suitable outside externships (which they help you locate and arrange).  So if you’re really interested in that kind of thing, you can pursue it as far as you like, but the formal curriculum doesn’t include a whole lot about management of the ‘normal’ hoof beyond recognizing whether it’s normal or diseased.

 

They do show you how to remove a shoe so you don’t rip up the hoof wall, how to trim the sole enough to get at an abscess or for diagnosis.  They teach you support pads for laminitis, infections, things like that, but not how to actually shoe a horse.  They have a couple of really good corrective farriers (Olin Balch is one of them) come in to show us different things about balanced trims and recognizing if a lameness issue might just be bad shoeing or trimming.  There just isn’t time in the curriculum to go beyond that, so they do what they can to point you in the right direction.  There were two guys in my class that had been shoers before going to vet school, and they’re now both terrific lameness vets.

 

When I was doing equine practice full-time, I had some good relationships with great farriers in my area, and when I found a problem, I’d meet them at a client’s barn to figure out between us what to do.  I did the diagnosis and treatment part and they told me the right trim/shoe to help solve the issue.  It worked great---I don’t try to be a farrier, and they don’t try to be vets.  Worked out well for everyone, including the horse.

 

Susan Garlinghouse, DVM

 

 


 


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