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Re: [RC] [RC] It's worse than I thought (was: Parelli, etc.) - Elizabeth ChaseExcellent question, Karen, and I believe the big picture answer is 'no'. I think they offer a course of learning by which those who want to understand horses in terms of their (the horses') behaviour may come to awareness of when the horse is scared, unconfident, shut down and gone away, or not understanding what the human wants..... among other topics.... I think they offer a chance to understand that horses want to be confident in their leader, therefore can and will test the human. How the human copes with the information they glean is highly individual... and as in non-horse life... reveals much about that individual. I do believe that too many people make the assumption that Parelli methods guarantee a quiet, unfussy, respecting horse. They want the magic bullet, as someone referred to it, that going through the motions is all they have to do. Not so. One needs to understand the principles and purpose that support the motions, needs to understand the horse, and come to self-understanding in order to be effective. Unfortunately what you have seen is what happens when a person does not, as I said in an earlier post. Studying PNH may open a whole can of personal worms an individual chooses not to deal with. When the various aspects come together in a positive way.... well, it's a very kewl experience. Fortunately I have the guidance of an advanced student, the will and curiosity, and know that of all I do know about life, it's only the tip of the iceberg and by no means am I about to be done with learning or changing. But that was me before Parelli, and this has only provided me another avenue of learning and pleasure. Before I had my close mentor, I too, had developed some poor timing, and having someone else watch me, giving instant feedback has been valuable. For example, I was unaware, for a time, that I was raising both arms to 'send' my horse in the circle, so he was not understanding which direction I wanted him to go.... he 'told' me in his terms, which I did not understand at first, and he seemed obstreperous and disrespectful.... once I learned what I was doing I was able to clarify my direction to him. I'm learning how to phrase my request in the form of a 'yes, do that'... instead of a 'no, said negatively'... and to question and check in with my own state of mind before I criticize the horse. Some days I can apply that awareness and understanding to my interactions with people. Some days I go to the dark side all too willingly. Those days I stay away from my horses and try to minimize interaction with humans. Good luck with your training, I hope I've helped you understand and perhaps that will help develop compassion. Liz --- Karen Sullivan <greymare56@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: Some thoughts, Kat's experiences and opinions pretty much closely mirror mine; I looking at horses for sale; the advertised "Parelli trained ones" all seem to have basic lack of respect for people problems and usually some other wierd hole.... Given the big picture; I wonder if Parelli fosters the belief and goal that a well trained horse should do anything the rider asks quietly and without fuss? Because, that is always the end goal in my mind...
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