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RE: [RC] [AERCMembersForum] RE: Loose horses on trails - Ranelle Rubin

We have three riders locally who do this insane behavior ALL THE TIME!! It makes me nuts! I whip out my cell phone and call 911 so they can meet them at the end of the trail. The trail is the last 10 miles of the Western States Trail (Tevis Trail) and it is very heavily traveled on weekends in particular.

One of these riders is a past member of the WSTF board, a DVM, and was actually wearing a "Ride Official" shirt when she blasted past us with her loose horse! I had a junior behind me, on a mare that was not real crazy about being passed on a single track trail on the uphill side!!! I yelled at her, and she turned around and said some nasty comment and rode off.

I noticed she quickly loaded her horses and was gone by the time we go to the staging area. I sent her an email reminding her of the leash law she was breaking. She did not respond.

I really wish I could do something more about this, as in our area, these folks think they are above the law!

Ranelle Rubin, Business Consultant
Independent Dynamite Distributor

916-663-4140 home office
916-718-2427 cellular
916-848-3662 fax

From: "Jim Holland" <lanconn@xxxxxxx>
Reply-To: AERCMembersForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: "'Jack &/or Virginia Goodman'" <theodysseyfarm@xxxxxxxxxxx>
CC: <ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <AERCMembersForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <jmcgarvey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <lanconn@xxxxxxx>, "'Michael Maul'" <mmaul@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AERCMembersForum] RE: Loose horses on trails
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 16:29:41 -0400


I concur. I would NEVER do this with my horses nor do I condone such
behavior. Although I have no personal knowledge of such an incident, I will
forward your email to our Endurance lists. An unrestrained horse on the
trail is an accident looking for a place to happen.

In every group and organization, there are those whose behavior tarnishes
the image of their discipline. Some of our rides are held on public trails
where trail riders are present during the ride. In those situations, our
Ride Managers are usually VERY careful to remind our riders to respect other
users and all times and make ever effort to avoid behavior which could
potentially result in accident or injury to ANY horse or rider and to be
good stewards of the land.

Please support the Back Country Horsemen's efforts to protect our trails.
One of our primary purposes is:

To perpetuate the common sense use and enjoyment of horses in America's back
country and Wilderness.

The Back Country Horsemen of North Georgia fully support this purpose.

For more information on our efforts in the Chattahoochee-Oconee NF, go to:


Thanks for calling this to our attention.

Jim, Sun of Dimanche+, and Mahada Magic

Richard T. "Jim" Holland

Three Creeks Farm

175 Hells Hollow Drive

Blue Ridge, Ga 30513

(706) 258-2830


Callsign KI4BEN


From: Jack &/or Virginia Goodman [mailto:theodysseyfarm@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2007 4:04 PM
To: lanconn@xxxxxxx
Subject: Loose horses on trails

Mr. Holland, I am not an endurance rider, just a trail rider. But I saw this
thread on the Chronicle of the Horse Forums and it really concerns me,
particularly in light of your recent posting on endurance.net about trail
restrictions in Georgia.


Because you are a respected member of the endurance community, I hope that
your concern would carry more weight than those of us who merely trail-ride
for fun. This will get horses kicked off trails faster than you can say
trail's open. Loose horses surely won't use "designated trails", and if they
hurt someone, trail-riders everywhere will suffer.

Please help spread the word that while ponying is fine (i.e., keep pony on a
leash), letting full-grown horses run loose on public trails is a
lawsuit/trail ban waiting to happen. I'm particularly concerned that someone
mentioned seeing this happen at a sanctioned ride in Colorado, which was not
stopped by the ride manager. The poster indicated those who saw it thought
it was "cute." We all need to work together to save our trails access, and
this behavior certainly won't help.

Thank you.

Virginia Goodman
Georgetown, KY


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