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Hunh?  I wasn't venting.   I was responding to your post which seemed  
to say that "just being a jerk" was OK.

I don't even ride in the CT region, so this isn't my problem to solve.

On May 29, 2007, at 3:08 PM, Truman Prevatt wrote:

> Actually Beth,
>
> While it might make you feel better to vent on Ridecamp. I expect  
> if there were a protest - the jerks would use this venting to show  
> a "persistent bias and a vendetta."  You are not going to solve the  
> problem here - you need to document the incidents and see if it  
> will withstand a protest.
>
> My guess is you might have given the jerks ammunition for their  
> protest if denied entry.
>
> BTW I'm not the bad guy here.
>
> Truman
>
> Beth Walker wrote:
> > Well, all due respect Truman, I think there is a qualitative  
> > difference between asking a question or requesting a second  
> > opinion, and screaming, yelling and "being a jerk".   I imagine  
> > most ride managers and vets can tell the difference.
> >
> > Certainly everyone loses their temper now and then.  However, we  
> > are talking about people who have an established pattern for this  
> > kind of behavior.  The RMs and vets should not have to put up with  
> > it.  As for setting a bad precedent - that is what the protest  
> > process is for.
> >
> > On May 29, 2007, at 1:29 PM, Truman Prevatt wrote:
> >
> > > Honking behind horses - IMO does cross the line. Excessive  
> > > arguing with vets does cross the line. However, if the wrong  
> > > precedent is set - even the asking of a question or requesting a  
> > > second opinion might go as considered arguing in the future. I'm  
> > > not sure yelling at ride management is more of just being a jerk  
> > > unless there is more to it.
> > >
> > > However, the riders in question can sure file a protest and for  
> > > the protest not to stand up - the ride managers will have to have  
> > > valid documentation with witnesses to all the incidents and the  
> > > incidents will have to show a pattern of abusive behavior that  
> > > rises the level as set forth in rule 4.1.3 and such as "blocking  
> > > other riders on the trail" sets a pretty high level.
> > >
> > > Truman


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