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RE: [RC] [RC] natural horse wormers? - Smith, Dave

Eric:
Ed gave a very good overview of the history of the horse in the
America's. I would only add that the horse evolved in North America and
recent fossil discoveries in Alaska prove it was essentially a modern
horse when it went extinct here -- most likely at the hands of early
Asian hunters spreading into the New World.

The question of the level of evolution and development of the North
American horse when it was eliminated by man is politically important in
that there are those of us who believe that the reintroduction of the
modern horse was simply a return of an animal to its birthplace -- along
the lines of the reintroduction of wolves into Yellowstone Park.
Unfortunately, federal guidelines disagree.  Under federal law, the wild
horses of the west are considered "feral".  As feral animals, they are
restricted from most federal and state parks -- even though there is
overwhelming evidence that they had once lived and thrived in many of
these sites. In fact, California State Parks recently removed 40 wild
horses from the Anza Borrego Desert State Park under the argument that
as "feral" animals, they had no right to be there. If the designation of
"feral" were removed, federal and state land management agencies would
have to treat mustangs like they treat elk, deer or buffalo and the
legal range of wild horses would increase dramatically. 

As to whether these horses, after nearly five centuries of running free
in the west (with continuous additions of new stock), can be considered
"wild," I simply invite you to try to get close enough to photograph
one.  These are wild animals in every sense of the term.  Their
populations increase and decrease in natural cycles that follow drought
and good rain years.  If you
are interested in America's wild horses, I highly recommend the
documentary "Cloud".  After viewing that film, you will have no doubt
that the mustang is as wild as the antelope, bear and deer.  

 

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Subject: Re: [RC] [RC] natural horse wormers?


    What do you (the collective you) consider a horse's "natural
environment"?  I know that I have always tended (without really
putting much thought into it) to consider the Western states as their
natural environment.  However, if I remember what I was taught in
primary school (back in the days of chalk and slate), the horses that
currently inhabit the western states are really ferral horses, and
are not native to that area.  So, Are there any truly "wild" horses
left in the world, and what is their natural environment?  Can the
ferral horses (or any long term domesticated animal like cats and
dogs) ever really be considered "wild/natural" after thousands of
years of domestication?




Eric Rueter
865-599-3594(C)
865-986-5966(H)
865-988-4134(W/F)

On Tue, April 10, 2007 17:53, rides2far@xxxxxxxx said:
there has never been any evidence that "natural" wormers, such as
DE,
actually work, or that natural antibiotics, such as echinacia, work
either. I was very surprised to hear this from her.

I think "Nature's wormer" is for the horse to be free range and not
have
to graze around his own manure. Since we invented fences, they're no
longer in a "natural environment". Hello Ivermectin! :-)

Angie

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