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Re: [RC] endurance discussion topic - Teri HunterI don't mind the fees that are reasonable but then you have fees that are not at all reasonable. At a particular ride there was a fee of $20 per horse per day to camp. Throughout the ride there was no set standard. Some people paid the stated fee others paid only 10 per horse and others did not pay anything. It was more as if who you were.... Then the $15.00 per meal. I remember when the camping and meal were included in the ride fee. That is how an entry can start to escilate, the associated fees. To reduce the cost I don't sign up for the meal. This saved me $30. I also donated Top 10 awards and paid for everything. I did not set up at the ride to sell, it was more important for me to focus on my new youngster. I love supporting the sport any way I can but at some point the fees have to be fair. Teri ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara McCrary" <bigcreekranch@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "Mike Lewis" <mlewis73@xxxxxxxxx>; <ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 11:11 AM Subject: Re: [RC] endurance discussion topic For the ride manager, prices have gone up, too. Were it not for my persuading the State Park system that the work we do to clear trails in the park (they cannot afford to do it), is worth the permit fee just to pass through the park within less than a 24-hour span, we would be paying $450 for that. The cost of trophies has gone up, the cost of rider fees to AERC has gone up, and in CA, the cost of the mandatory drug-testing fee is $5 per rider, and the technician doesn't even come to our ride to collect samples. Vet fees are up, and we can't even pay what they lose in income during the 48 hours they spend at our ride. Please do have the educating experience of organizing and managing a ride before you fret about the ride fees. I think your eyes will be opened wide to what it costs the ride manager to put on a ride. And that doesn't even begin to cover the hours and hours of paperwork, trail prep, flagging, etc. Barbara McCrary Ride Mgr., Swanton Pacific 75/100 "The Most Beautiful Trail in the World" Just to remind all that Swanton Pacific has been cancelled for 2007 because the ride managers have an exciting travel opportunity they could not pass up. More about that...later. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Lewis" <mlewis73@xxxxxxxxx> To: <stephteeter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 6:31 AM Subject: Re: [RC] endurance discussion topicDoes anyone dare say it? Ride Fees!!! YIKES!!! As if the price of diesel to get to a ride weren't bad enough! My opinion: only the wealthy can truly excel in this sport. My fuel costs, entry fees, and related required expenses to get to FITS last weekend were upwards of $450. That is ONE ride of "only" 25 miles, of which $100 was the entry/camp fee. I have not hosted a ride... perhaps someday will have the chance. I know it is expensive to cover insurance, trail fees, meal prep for several hundred people, and other related expenses. However it also seems that prices have risen dramatically from where they were when I was active in endurance racing several years ago. I have some opinions on other subjects regarding the current state of endurance, but hold off to see if someone else picks them up first. :-) Mike=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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