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Before I tell you my profile - I want to comment on Jody's post. This is 
nothing her daughter Joni did not tell the whole ridecamp when Joni 
didn't ride the third day at the Yellow Hammer and Jody did. Boy did we 
learn a lot more ;-) . 

I'm a classic INTP - the architect.

Comments regarding: " The Architects' distant goal is always to 
rearrange the environment somehow, to shape, to construct, to devise, 
whether it be buildings, institutions, enterprises, or theories. They 
look upon the world -- natural and civil -- as little more than raw 
material to be reshaped according to their design, as a formless stone 
for their hammer and chisel. Ayn Rand, master of the Rational 
<http://keirsey.com/personality/nt.html> character, describes this 
characteristic in the architect Howard Roark, her protagonist in The 
Fountainhead.

Many regard this attitude as arrogant, and Architects are likely, 
especially in their later years, after finding out that most others are 
faking an understanding of the laws of nature, to think of themselves as 
the prime movers who must pit themselves against nature and society in 
an endless struggle to define ends clearly and adopt whatever means that 
promise success. If this is arrogance, then at least it is not vanity, 
and without question it has driven the design engineers to take the lead 
in molding the structure of civilization."

Almost opposite of Joe but the two types work together well it seems. 
When I was in service to Her Majesty the Queen, in a small highly 
technical and high pressure office we all took the test and our scores 
were posted on our doors. Our office mates were selected based on the 
profile. I shared an office with an ENTJ - and we managed to convince 
the Queen at the time, George WH Bush as DCI, to ramrod our policy and 
technical approach to the problem through the system. A architect and a 
field marshall is a dangerous combination.


So folks now you know what you are dealing with. Make you feel better? 
As Joe says "it's in the genes, I can't help it."

Truman

Joe Long wrote:

> On Tue, 21 Feb 2006 11:07:38 -0800 (PST), Jody Rogers-Buttram
> <dragnin100@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>  
>
> > Well, Bruce, this must be the reason that my therapist finally threw up her hands and said, "Your wasting my time and your money, 'cause you aren't EVER going to change".  
> >     
> > She said I was a control freak.....Imagine that??????
> >  
> > Jody
> >    
>
> On the Kiersy Temperament Sorter personality profile, I'm an ENTJ.  The 
> summary
> for that is called "Field Marshall Rational."  Examples of ENTJs are Bill Gates,
> Alan Greenspan, and Napoleon.    http://keirsey.com/personality/ntej.html
>
> The description in part reads: 
>
> "Of the four aspects of strategic analysis and definition, it is marshalling or
> situational organizing role that reaches the highest development in
> Fieldmarshals." 
>
> and:
>
> "Hardly more than two percent of the total population, the Fieldmarshals are
> bound to lead others, ..."
>
> and: 
>
> "For the Fieldmarshals, there must always be a goal-directed reason for doing
> anything, and people's feelings usually are not sufficient reason. They prefer
> decisions to be based on impersonal data, ... like to use engineered operations
> -- and they expect others to follow suit."
>
> Or as someone said about me when I was on the Board, "Joe feels that if you
> disagree with him, he just hasn't explained it properly."
>
> So, Barbara, I guess that's why I "keep at it."  It's in my genes.
>  
>  


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"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm 
not sure about the former."  - Albert Einstein


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