[RC] Hay Prices and group purchase - Joane Pappas WhiteIn the drought years when water was scare but sun was a daily occurrence, we produced 4-500 tons of alfalfa and a couple of hundred tons of oat hay. At its highest, our best hay was $125 but that was short lived. The average during the drought years was $90-100 per ton. However, we came out of the drought in one giant step last winter and fall. The summer was very wet and getting a cutting of hay baled and out of the field without getting it rain on, proved to be practically impossible in our area. For the cows, that is still great hay, but for horses, it is not acceptable so our premium quality horse hay is up in price in Utah right now---but NOTHING like in California. In Order to compare apples and APples, I would point out that some of you are describing grass hay and grass/alfalfa combinations. When you talk of alfalfa, even horse quality is going to vary between third cutting leafy dairy quality 22% protein alfalfa (which is really very high protein for your horses and has to be fed with caution in limited amounts to endurance horses) down to older field alfalfa that is About 12-14% protein and not as pretty and Leafy" but also not as hard on your horses kidneys. First you should decide exactly what quality and type of hay you want and then look at the shipping. Right now if you buy direct from southern Idaho producers, you should be able to buy good to excellent horse blends of alfalfa/grasses at $85 a ton. I noticed a number of truckers who would still transport hay as a pickup lot on a return run for basically the cost of their fuel. We have shipped our alfalfa to friends in North Carolina. Because of their prices on the East Coast and South for Alfalfa, they could afford to buy the hay at $85 a ton, have it loaded here in Utah IN AN ENCLOSED SEMI TRAILER SO IT WOULD NOT GET DAMAGED GETTING ACROSS COUNTRY--pay the standard shipping of a $1 per mile (during the 1999-2002 time period) for the 1800 mile trip and still save money. I was stunned but they did it several years in a row. Now fuel prices would probably affect that decision but perhaps their local prices would still justify it. If any of you are interested, I have a number of contacts who sell their own hay and transport it for the intermountain West. I could get you some rates I know it would beat $17 a bale---no matter what that bale was. If we have a good hay year, I would still love to sell some of our hay to the endurance community in Napa----hahhhaha---for a lot less. Joane and the Herd Price, Utah Lyoness@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx www.Ladyjlivestock.com =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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