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RE: [RC] Breeding - heidi

Mike, I'm coming in late on this discussion, but would second what Catherine from Australia said. 
 
Bob Morris brought up the old adage from the TB world, which has not been a particularly trustworthy formula--and I'd add to Catherine's advice by augmenting her comment about studying pedigrees.  The reason why the old TB formula doesn't work very well is because often "the best" is an outcross of some sort that will not breed true, or is a fluke for its breeding.  Case in point:  When I was a kid, we had a 15/16 TB ranch mare that was real super ranch mare, but would not have been stellar on the track.  Her sire was a US Remount stallion that had been unsuccessful on the track.  His sire, a horse named Pillory, missed the Triple Crown by one place in the Derby--he was second there, but won the Preakness and the Belmont, sometime back in the 20s.  But he literally came out of nowhere, with a pedigree that would not have predicted his stellar racing career.  Likewise, when he was used as a sire, he never produced anything with the sort of speed that he himself had.
 
The point of that example is that it isn't just the performance of the individual that you look for when breeding--it is the relatedness to other successful individuals as well.  You also need to look both at the pedigree of your mare and the pedigree of the prospective stallion to see if the cross between the two is known to be a successful cross.
 
In general, if one is breeding for long-term results, one wants to keep some homogeneity to the program to ensure success.  On the other hand, if one is looking for a stellar individual without particular regard to breeding in subsequent generations, then there are also proven outcrosses that tend to work more often than not.
 
Bottom line is that to increase your odds of success, you need to do more than scratch the surface--you need to begin to understand how endurance traits are passed on and start identifying successful families.  You need to understand where your mare's success comes from in her own pedigree, and then try to find a cross that compliments her breeding. 
 
Heidi



I recently purchased a pretty nice mare who has a good racing and
endurance background.  I would like to breed her eventually to a stallion
in hopes of producing a world class result.

I'm new to horse breeding and would like to know folks' thoughts about how
to select a stallion to produce my desired result.

The mare has completed the AERC national championship qualifying ride,
Biltmore Challenge, and another tough ride (can't recall the name, but it
is a SE endurance ride and goes STRAIGHT UP and STRAIGHT DOWN.)  She's won
a 25 and either a 50 or 100... will have to look up her records to refresh
my memory.

My thought is that I need to breed for disposition first, then soundness,
then for heart/lungs and athleticism.

I appreciate any thoughts.


Mike



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