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Re: [RC] [RC] Bare VS Shod: There must be a compromise - steelsidedown

Tee hee Frank you're a hoot and soo right!
 
This has been the most bizzarre thread, maybe everyone needs more coffee!  (me too?)
 
I disagreed with with flat weight bearing soles and paring away the hoof wall.  While it maybe helpful for that one particular problem -- on average a sole so low to the ground you are able to rasp is not normal and usually painful.  I went on about proper trimming being the hoof wall is the primary weight bearing surface and the sole trimmed concavely.   
 
In response, I got a whole bunch of angry people, telling me I was wrong, yet sending me pictures of the trim I described.  Huh? I'm still a little confused, did I misspell a word?   I don't have time to respond to everyone, but rest assured if you emailed me a picture -- all those pictures where of hooves with nice concave soles and weight bearing hoof wall.   
 
No one has sent me a photo of a horse walking on its sole.... 
 
So I'm thinking something is was lost in translation ....
 
I think Frank hit the nail on the head, I properly trimmed hoof is in the eye of the beholder.  It completely depends on your level of education and experiences.  But, really guys, you'll sent me a bunch of good looking, very similiar hooves.  Seems the majority of us think alike.
 
Jen
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 10:08 AM
Subject: Re: [RC] [RC] Bare VS Shod: There must be a compromise



On 11/2/06, Kathleen <mustangkt@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Yes, in a properly barefoot trimmed horse, or in a wild mustang, the sole is the support of a horses weight.  Otherwise, it would be like you walking on your toenails instead of the pads of your feet!
 
 
Personally, I doin't care whether someone rides a barefoot horse or a shod horse...it's their decision for their horse.
 
But, I'd like to comment on the above snipped statements.
 
"...the sole is the support of a horses weight."   In my opinion, the sole is one "component" of the horse's  support mechanism.  For me, the truth has always seemed to be that a horse's "conformation" is the true support of its weight, whether moving or standing still.  As such, the sole is one of the components of the overall locomotory effort of a moving horse.  The dissipation of impact forces through the hoof, up the leg, through the shoulder and through the actual complete locomotory cycle of each stride is something else. 
 
lAs for "it would be like walking on your toenails instead of the pads of your feet!" statement, I believe that the contractile moment of the loading and the unloading of the hoof should not be discounted in the dissipation of impact forces.  Does that happen in a hoof with a pared sole?...yeah.  Does that happen in the hoof with a hoof not pared out?...yeah.  It is a matter of how much for a particular horse.  As such, the frog and bars are integral in overall alleviation of the concussive forces of equine locomotion.  The dynamic moments in hoof function during movement are certainly aided by a properly trimmed hoof, but, to my knowledge (which is properly just not as great as some of the folks involved in this converstation) a properly shod horse's hoof's contraction and release are not affected by iron.  It is the actual "structure" of the hoof, ("solid"...laminae and "liquid" (blood, synovia, etc.) which dictates how the horse will bear up under strenous and dynamic effort.  Certainly, angles and such are contributory in whether the horse functions at optimum levels and with as little degradation to stacked structures within the hoof and leg, etc.
 
A "properly trimmed hoof" has come to mean a hoof which is trimmed in a manner the owner of the horse deems proper.  Not "double-speak", but, in fact, the way things seem to play out on this list.
 
When discussing the dynamic and fluid nature of a living organism's mechanics (the horse), it's much more than whether to pare the sole or not...for me anyway.
 
Frank
 
 

 

Replies
Re: [RC] Bare VS Shod: There must be a compromise, Lori Bertolucci
Re: [RC] Bare VS Shod: There must be a compromise, steelsidedown
Re: [RC] Bare VS Shod: There must be a compromise, Kathleen
Re: [RC] [RC] Bare VS Shod: There must be a compromise, frank solano