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Re: [RC] Weight & BC - Sky Ranch

Great explanation - I worked for attorneys for over 20 years as a legal
secretary and paralegal.  Bob's certainly right, we don't want to hand it
over to a legal team or we'll end up with a 100 + page "pamphlet" of rules.
And probably less people willing to put on a ride, which of course I doubt
anyone wants to happen!

Let common sense prevail.

Carla Richardson
Colorado

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Morris" <bobmorris@xxxxxxxx>
To: "'Eric Rueter'" <eric@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: <Merryben@xxxxxxx>; <ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 9:40 AM
Subject: RE: [RC] Weight & BC


Eric:

The current form of AERC Rules and regulations were
compounded by endurance riders for endurance eiders. They
are not perfect, but then no set of rules are perfect. These
rules were defined to make known the parameters under which
reasonably fair competition could be held through out the
United States and Canada. While and attempt was made for the
rules and regulations to be comprehensive, it was deemed
impossible to encompass each and every "what if'" instance
that could be put forth.

Basically, the thought was, here is a set of rules that are
simple, cover most aspects of the sport and yet, are not
onerous.

Since the promulgation of the current rules, we have had
criticism that the rules were not professional, i.e., not
written by the legal profession, therefore they had many
faults.

If the membership wishes to have all loopholes and
contingencies covered, I would suggest that there be a
groundswell urging by the members to have these simple rules
reconstituted by a team of legal advisors. However, I can
assure you that the final result will be much greater than
the current pocket sized 32 page pamphlet in current usage.
And realize, fewer than half of the current rule booklet
applies the competitors. The rest are administrative rules.

I hope this explains why each and every instance is not in
our simple rule book. I would be pleased to discuss this
further if you wish.

Bob Morris
Morris Endurance Enterprises
Boise, ID

-----Original Message-----
From: ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Eric
Rueter
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 7:31 AM
To: Bob Morris
Cc: Merryben@xxxxxxx; ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [RC] Weight & BC


But Bob, it is "murky" at least to me, else I would not have
asked the
question.  If you refer to other sections of the rules, the
to words
"finish" and "finish line" show up in several places and do
not refer to
"completion".  For example, in 6.2.1.1 it in part reads "All
equines must
stand a mandatory post-ride evaluation within one hour of
finish. ...".
That (at least to this uneducated Appalachian hillbilly)
implies that
"finish" is the passing of the finish line, and not the
passing of the
post-ride vet evaluation (completion).  I was hoping that
there might be
some "refinement" to the rules, other than in the SE we do
this, and in the
NW we do this...I agree that Rules should be Rules and the
should be
interpreted t he same regardless of who and or where they
are being used. One of the best "quotes/sayings" I have seen
is (and I am probably not
quoting it exactly and therefore not communicating
correctly) "The art of
communication, is not being understood, it is making it so
you cannot be
mis-understood" -- a big difference.


Bob Morris writes:

MB

Nothing murky about it in the slightest. Our rule states:

9.3 Under the AERC system, all of the first ten finishing
equines are
eligible

for consideration, whether ridden by Junior,
Featherweight,

Lightweight, Middleweight or Heavyweight riders.



"Most of the rides I go to weigh the first 12 in case
someone does not get a completion.  Then the next person
can show for
BC because they are then top ten."

That is the correct way to do it.

Bob


Bob Morris
Morris Endurance Enterprises
Boise, ID

-----Original Message-----
From: ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Merryben@xxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 6:17 PM
To: ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [RC] Weight & BC



In a message dated 1/17/2006 1:58:56 P.M. Central Standard
Time,
tprevatt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:

The way I read it is "across the finish line." I have
crossed the finish
line in 11th place and had two horses in front of me
pulled
at the
finish line but still could not stand for BC.


Most of the rides I go to weigh the first 12 in case
someone does not
get a completion.  Then the next person can show for BC
because they
are then top ten.  I think it is one of those murky areas
in our rules
that are not really clear. mb




Eric Rueter
Rueter Consulting, Inc.
865.599.3594(C)
865.988.4134(W)
865.986.5966(H)


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