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RE: [RC] Weight & BC - Bob MorrisEric: The current form of AERC Rules and regulations were compounded by endurance riders for endurance eiders. They are not perfect, but then no set of rules are perfect. These rules were defined to make known the parameters under which reasonably fair competition could be held through out the United States and Canada. While and attempt was made for the rules and regulations to be comprehensive, it was deemed impossible to encompass each and every "what if'" instance that could be put forth. Basically, the thought was, here is a set of rules that are simple, cover most aspects of the sport and yet, are not onerous. Since the promulgation of the current rules, we have had criticism that the rules were not professional, i.e., not written by the legal profession, therefore they had many faults. If the membership wishes to have all loopholes and contingencies covered, I would suggest that there be a groundswell urging by the members to have these simple rules reconstituted by a team of legal advisors. However, I can assure you that the final result will be much greater than the current pocket sized 32 page pamphlet in current usage. And realize, fewer than half of the current rule booklet applies the competitors. The rest are administrative rules. I hope this explains why each and every instance is not in our simple rule book. I would be pleased to discuss this further if you wish. Bob Morris Morris Endurance Enterprises Boise, ID -----Original Message----- From: ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Eric Rueter Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 7:31 AM To: Bob Morris Cc: Merryben@xxxxxxx; ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [RC] Weight & BC But Bob, it is "murky" at least to me, else I would not have asked the question. If you refer to other sections of the rules, the to words "finish" and "finish line" show up in several places and do not refer to "completion". For example, in 6.2.1.1 it in part reads "All equines must stand a mandatory post-ride evaluation within one hour of finish. ...". That (at least to this uneducated Appalachian hillbilly) implies that "finish" is the passing of the finish line, and not the passing of the post-ride vet evaluation (completion). I was hoping that there might be some "refinement" to the rules, other than in the SE we do this, and in the NW we do this...I agree that Rules should be Rules and the should be interpreted t he same regardless of who and or where they are being used. One of the best "quotes/sayings" I have seen is (and I am probably not quoting it exactly and therefore not communicating correctly) "The art of communication, is not being understood, it is making it so you cannot be mis-understood" -- a big difference. Bob Morris writes: MB Nothing murky about it in the slightest. Our rule states: 9.3 Under the AERC system, all of the first ten finishing equines are eligible for consideration, whether ridden by Junior, Featherweight, Lightweight, Middleweight or Heavyweight riders. "Most of the rides I go to weigh the first 12 in case someone does not get a completion. Then the next person can show for BC because they are then top ten." That is the correct way to do it. Bob Bob Morris Morris Endurance Enterprises Boise, ID -----Original Message----- From: ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Merryben@xxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 6:17 PM To: ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [RC] Weight & BC In a message dated 1/17/2006 1:58:56 P.M. Central Standard Time, tprevatt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: The way I read it is "across the finish line." I have crossed the finish line in 11th place and had two horses in front of me pulled at the finish line but still could not stand for BC. Most of the rides I go to weigh the first 12 in case someone does not get a completion. Then the next person can show for BC because they are then top ten. I think it is one of those murky areas in our rules that are not really clear. mb Eric Rueter Rueter Consulting, Inc. 865.599.3594(C) 865.988.4134(W) 865.986.5966(H) =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- =-=-=-=-= Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- =-=-=-=-= =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
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