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RE: [RC] red bag - Rae CallawayScarlet had a red bag delivery a couple of years ago. She was several days from due and I was watching her on the camera when I started to think something was wrong. When I went out to her, instead of a white bubble, there was a red strip hanging out of her vulva. I immediately called the vet, who told me to get that foal out while she was on her way. As soon as I put my arm in Scarlet, she laid down and started pushing. The foal was born alive, but the lack of oxygen due to the placenta disintegrating had caused enough brain damage that we couldn't save her. It was touch and go with Scarlet for the next couple of days as we kept flushing her to get all of the placenta fragments out. She came through it fine and her last delivery was textbook (and witnessed by about 20 people!). Rae Tall C Arabians - Central -----Original Message----- From: ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bette Lamore Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 12:40 AM To: ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [RC] red bag I know quite a few of you breed out there and I just had a foal still born and yet the labor didn't appear to be unusually difficult -- we've had a lot worse yet all went fine. I just got info on what probably happened -- it is called Red Bag Presentation. Although my mare did not look anywhere near as bloody as the picture I was sent, Classie's placenta came out immediately following the foal, who was already dead at birth. Although Mark instinctively tried to help free up the foal as soon as he saw the nose (and broke/drained the bag) as he knew that Classie was having some difficulty, he could not budge the foal, and he has had plenty of experience freeing the shoulders. At 6'5" he has a lot of strength yet the foal would not release and he didn't want to tear anything-- the foal was obviously in a bad position. Classie got up a few more times and repositioned it and then it popped right out, however, the colt was already gone--- Mark even tried mouth to nostril resuscitation to no avail. I was still out of town and felt really bad for my husband who tried his best and did everything he knew how to do. As the article says, by the time you know it is red bag, it is too late to call the vet. Sometimes it is just too late..... Hope others can benefit from this info. Oh, since I can't send attachments on ridecamp, go to the following link for more info. http://www.arabiansporthorse.com/red-bag.html Bette -- Bette Lamore Whispering Oaks Arabians Home of Bunny and 16.2h TLA Halynov who lives on through his legacy Hal's Riverdance! http://www.arabiansporthorse.com "Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming --WOW-- what a ride !! " =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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