Home Current News News Archive Shop/Advertise Ridecamp Classified Events Learn/AERC
Endurance.Net Home Ridecamp Archives
ridecamp@endurance.net
[Archives Index]   [Date Index]   [Thread Index]   [Author Index]   [Subject Index]

Re: [RC] riding with non-entered riders - Joe Long

On Sun, 14 May 2006 15:48:22 -0500, "Jonni" <jonnij@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

The LBJ Grasslands where the Bluebonnet ride is held, is indeed a very public, 
well used trail system. When events are held, be it the rides, or the 50 mile 
foot run, other users have full use of the trails, and camp area if they 
desire camping in such a busy area. I put out a sign this weekend that said 
Ride camp at the camping area entrance, in hopes weekenders would see that it 
was an event going on, not just a busy day. On the trail, we passed many 
pleasure riders during the day. Slowed down, said hello, and other 
pleasantries, then picked up the pace again.  In the camp area is a large 
metal trough, with windmill pumping water, and a pond. Again, very public 
place, with pleasure riders passing through, right next to pulse and vet check 
on the way to water their horses. Never any real problems with the pleasure 
riders except one who occasionally rides through the vet trot out area, not 
knowing any better. So yes, trails can be ridden by anyone during the ride.   
Management fills
about 8 troughs near the big windmill trough constantly all day for scooping 
water on horses and cooling them down with a pump in the pond. Keeps a 
volunteer pretty busy with 130+ horses entered on a hot day.(this leads to 
another issue in a min.)  So, while riding, I did see an entered rider pass, 
with a rider whose horse did NOT have a number on it's hind end. It was 
obvious they were riding together. My riding partner asked if they were both 
in the ride. Reply was yes, from entered rider, but when questioned on lack of 
number on other horse, rider said "well, she is just riding with me". We 
explained that was a rule infraction, and they could not do that. At that 
moment, the non entered riders was ahead 75', with entered rider following. We 
explained pacing etc. etc., and why it was not allowed.   When we got in to 
camp for our vet check, I see non-entered rider cooling horse down from 
troughs filled by volunteer, and checking pulse of own horse. Very obvious 
this person is
somewhat interested in how the horse is doing, but my gut feeling was, did NOT 
want to pay entry fee to actually "compete". Oh, the entered rider I heard 
came in "top ten" on the LD ride......... So, public trails or not, this was 
indeed a rule infraction. Did the rider know they were not allowed to do this? 
I'm not sure. Someone just sent me a note they saw some other entrants at the 
ride, riding along with non "numbered" horses. 

This was a clear violation of the rule, and the rider should be disqualified.

On public trails, a rider riding along with a non-entered rider for a while,
where there is no relationship or arrangement with that rider, is incidental and
would not be a violation.  This can lead to "gray areas" where judgement is
required, but a friend who comes to the event and rides along with the entered
rider is a violation, for which the penalty is disqualification.

On non-public trails, I can see this as an insurance liability. Also, I can 
see if allowed, how those who want to really "race", might try to have friends 
positioned along the trail with fresh horses, to ride along with, to keep the 
entered horse company, and mentally cheerful to move along, possibly giving it 
an advantage over other entrants without "friends" to ride with.

This practice is what brought about the rule in the first place.

Jonni

-- 

Joe Long
jlong@xxxxxxxx
http://www.rnbw.com

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net.
Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp
Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp

Ride Long and Ride Safe!!

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=


Replies
[RC] riding with non-entered riders, Jonni