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Re: [RC] posting?? manes??//Angie/Stirrup Length - Sharon Levasseur

I am not one of those folks blessed with years and many $$ worth of riding
lessons.  I've never even had ONE riding lesson on the horse I've had for the
last 4 years.

He's one of those 14.2h little guys with the monster trot... I call it the 747
Trot because it feels like someone stuck a jet engine up his butt... I also
always say you could read a magazine on the up-post... and the only way I can
ride that trot is with short stirrups.  Not incredibly short, just a tad
shorter than ankle-bone, but definitely shorter than I used to ride before I
got him.  If I don't do that I find myself standing on tippietoe to get my
crotch out of the saddle far enough to spend enough time in the air to come
down when I should.

I do not personally find that it makes me arch my back or stick my butt out...
in fact I'm still fighting with a slight tendency to sit on my back pockets and
round my spine a little bit.  I'm not even bothering to fight my tendency to
hunch my shoulders... that's a fight I lost years ago when I was 8" taller than
all the girls in my class!!

Just my two cents...

-Sharon L.
www.zegifts.com


Quoting Laney Humphrey <laneyhh@xxxxxxxxxxx>:

There are many, many excellent teachers out there, each with their own
take on what's the "correct" way to do things.  I think communication
style has a lot to do with whether a particular teacher's message
resonants with a person.  A teacher who really says and does things in
ways that make sense to me is Peggy Cummings/Connected Riding. I had
been struggling with instability/butt out/arched back/gripping with my
knees.  She showed me a very different way of riding including using
shorter stirrups to free up some joints as well as working not to grip
with my knees.  The change in my comfort and security level is amazing,
and what's even better is that my horse feels better and isn't a spooker
any more!!!
Laney

Beverley H. Kane, MD wrote:
Angie--Certainly you know what works best for you. (Tho, I too have felt
the
mortification of being videotaped with the resulting film title, Curious
George Rides a Horse.)

Intuitively, and for my body, shortening the stirrups results in some
destabilization of the legs and body.
The shorter the stirrups, the more bent the knees.
The more bent the knees, the more I tend toward bum out, chest forward,
bigger angle for the pelvis to rise through, more work for the quads and
knees, more angled contact w/ inner thighs.
 Hence all this practice posting w/o stirrups, as others have mentioned, so
the post comes from the motion of the horse, the thrust of the pelvis, and
light contact w/ the inner thigh--not by pushing off w/ the feet.
My Arab mare has a really rough trot (tho...I can now actually -sit- it in
my Barefoot Cheyenne.)
So I try to ride w/ stirrups as long as possible, still being able to keep
heels down.
(I suspect a lot of people w/ knee problems are riding w/ stirrups too
short.)

When I did my Sports Medicine Fellowship, we dissected the gaits of runners
in slo mo video on ourselves and on world champions. It has never ceased to
amaze me how theoretically bad a runner's biomechanics can be and they're
still champions and pain free.

Beverley

----- Original Message -----
From: <rides2far@xxxxxxxx>
To: <ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 4:55 AM
Subject: RE: [RC] posting?? manes??


[snip]. Before an endurance ride I have to shorten my stirrups a lot on
Kaboot just to make my "up" arch long enough to come down when he does and
not have to tip toe. Does that make sense? I readjust my stirrups a lot. If
I plan to ride slowly, I ride with them longer but if my horses are going
to
do their power trot I can't maintain what feels like the correct position,
with ankles, knees and hips relaxed and in that "perpetual motion" groove
unless my stirrups are shorter and I'm up longer.


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Replies
RE: [RC] posting?? manes??, rides2far@xxxxxxxx
Re: [RC] posting?? manes??//Angie/Stirrup Length, Beverley H. Kane, MD
Re: [RC] posting?? manes??//Angie/Stirrup Length, Laney Humphrey