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Re: [RC] [RC] saddle fit - Marlene Moss

Julienne,

Here’s a little to think about that may help you make some decisions regarding the fit of your saddle.

 

There are really 2 factors in the width of a saddle and not all saddle makers take them into account – which is part of why no one saddle works for all horses.  One is the angle –you want the angle of the tree to match the angle of the shoulder or else you have pinching or lack of stability.  But the other factor which is often ignored, is the breadth.  It is possible to have a horse with a steeper shoulder angle be quite broad and have the same measurement between the points of an English tree as a horse with a shallower angle that is less “broad”.  

 

The recommendation of 2-3 fingers of gullet clearance is based on flocked saddle which will pack down over time. You want to start with sufficient clearance so that as the saddle breaks in and the flocking packs in that the pommel will not contact the wither.  For saddles that are not flocked and cannot pack down, then “sufficient” clearance through all gaits and motion, is,well… sufficient.

 

So what does it mean when you have more clearance than just “sufficient”?  You have to look at why, and what the potential impact is.

 

It sounds like you have checked the angle match to your horse. If the breadth is not wide enough, but the angle matches, this can cause the saddle to perch a little high.  This isn’t necessarily an issue all by itself.  Some people don’t like that feeling, even if it is only a visual and doesn’t cause any problems.  But if the saddle is sitting higher than it was designed to, you may have lost opportunity for contact, stability and weight distribution. 

 

You do need to look at the balance of the seat as well. If the seat is now tilted down toward the cantle it will be harder for the rider to balance, post and 2 point, especially over a long ride.  This can also put additional pressure on the horse’s loins.

 

Since you had a bridging problem before, you have probably already checked this, but a perched saddle can be more likely to bridge of the curvature of the tree does not match that of the back.

 

So basically, keep doing the checks you are doing – shoulder angle, bridging, gullet width.  But take a look (and feel) at the amount of contact the saddle has with the horse.  If you just have a narrow little strip fairly high up, then you are losing ability to distribute weight and may have side to side stability issues when mounting or for big spooks.

 

If you are unsure of what you are seeing, you could try to take some pictures with no pad, from the front of the saddle and I could take a look.

 

Another thing to check is saddle placement.  It is very common for people to place the saddle too far forward – which increases how high the saddle sits over the wither, and can cause bridging, when otherwise, the saddle could fit perfectly.  For a standard treed saddle, it needs to sit with the points of the tree behind the furthest back rotation of the point of the scapula.  You can test this with no pad or girth by holding the saddle in place with one hand, putting the other over the point of the scapula and have someone lead your horse.  Some horses have bulgier shoulder action or muscle changes when the horse moves and this has to be taken into account for saddle fit.

 

But if the saddle is balanced, fits the horse’s shoulder angle/motion, seems to have a good amount of clearance and you are comfortable, then it may work well for you both.

 

I hope that makes sense, feel free to email me if you want to talk about this some more!

Marlene

 

Marlene Moss

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