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Re: [RC] trot/canter/condish - rdcarrie <Well they don't do formal races per se but they had very fast Arabs who
they take out twice a week and "run" When confronted with such a competition, Cadence was not about to be left behind - but I was very concerned that to take him and run him at length was not good.> Trust your instincts. If he's not been ridden like that prior to now, suddenly starting to do so could overstress tendons, ligaments, etc. And equally important is his mental conditioning...all he's learning on a ride like this is that when he gets with other horses who are going fast, it's time to go like he** with no thought to pacing, taking care of himself (eating/drinking), etc. You don't need to teach most horses to be competitive...what they need to learn is to listen to you and not lose their brains at rides.
<They kept saying "dont worry,he's not even breathing hard." >
Uggh...I'd avoid them like the plague.
Dawn in East Texas -----Original Message----- From: Ridecamp Guest <guest-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tue, 03 Jan 2006 18:51:54 GMT Subject: [RC] trot/canter/condish Please Reply to: Diane Day fourdays@xxxxxxxx or ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ========================================== >From Dreamweaver: Over the years, I have found that overall if I keep my horses at a 10 mph or lower rate of speed on rides, that I will keep them injury free. I have done a lot of miles well above that speed, and depending on the horse, they do just fine at it, as long as they are prepared for it. It takes a long time to build up to being able to do that without hurting them though. Every horse I have ridden has a cutoff point at which they are more comfortable going to a canter from a trot. They are all different, and that cutoff speed will change as they get more and more fit or experienced. I try to not stay in one gait or one diagonal or lead for any length of time, that way I can work the different muscles and keep them from getting sore (or so that's the theory) ;) Thank you Karen for your reply - I am needing this particular info just now. I did 2 25 miles and 1 30 mile ride this past year, my first year in AERC. My horse is 14 and is a well rounded kind of guy - dressage/driving background - and in the past 3 years lots of trail miles. At the last ride - the 30 miler, I let him trot and canter (7 mph aver I think) the whole ride whereas before I held him to a walk/trot,which he just hated. He loves to go and I think would go forever but one of his trots is faster than my daughter's barrel racer's lope. I am just not sure know how long to let him go. His recoveries are great - I have never checked his HR while riding though. (am way too techno-dysfunctional to use the wired up deals) For this upcoming season, I am going to be riding 6-8 miles every 2nd or third day at the trot with maybe a mile or two at the canter. Hopefully on weekends, do a longer ride, again alternating gaits. Just recently, I learned via my farrier about two women whom he said were endurance riders, about 30 minutes away. So I met up with them for a ride. Well they don't do formal races per se but they had very fast Arabs who they take out twice a week and "run" When confronted with such a competition, Cadence was not about to be left behind - but I was very concerned that to take him and run him at length was not good. When I realized they were not going to rate the ride, I asked them to keep at a canter, especially as there was more sand than he is used to. They did but it was obvious they prefer to just flat out gallop the whole way. They kept saying "dont worry,he's not even breathing hard." I am not in this sport to ride fastest or best - yet I have a horse who wants to move out. As long as his recoveries are good and I have ridden him LSD during the week as well, should I be doing these 8-10 mile canters with these ladies as part of his training? I love having someone to ride with but I dont want to put him at risk. I would like to do 50's this year. Would some of you like to describe a typical week as you get ready for the spring rides? What mileage do you do - how often. At what point do you decide to let them canter for longer lengths? If he doesnt get winded, & is not using accessory muscles -HR comes down good, are we okay to go? He's a pretty savvy horse at this point, can I let him determine his own speed? As long as he's not in a competitive situation, he will rate himself; if I let him decide, he'll move from his lovely 7mph trot, into his driving trot that sends me to the moon & then into a canter. He'll stay there a couple of miles but then come down again eventually,(though never back to a walk on his own accord) Can I let him do this and then just add miles to get him ready? Thanks,DianeD =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
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