RE: [RC] Question - Jim HollandActually, John, there is more to the report than just determining the cause of death. Horses die for all kinds of reasons, from pre-existing illness, injury, overriding, etc. Necropsies can provide important information in SOME deaths, but not all. There has been some discussion regarding AERC providing funds for necropsies at ride deaths in order to collect data. (If my horse died, whether at a ride or at home I would want to know why) IMHO, we will never eliminate all horse deaths in Endurance, but we need to try. The Vet Committee Report provides more data than just the exact cause of death, and the HWC does additional research. Investigating the death of ONE horse, in Susan Garlinghouse's words, is a "one rat study". The HWC is creating a database that includes not only just WHY a horse died, but what conditions may have put that horse in harms way. For example, let's say a necropsy showed that a horse died from a twisted gut. There are all kinds of things that could cause that, and taken by itself, provides little insight into how the horse ended up in that situation, if it was ride related, or if it could have been prevented. It may be been a combination of things. The HWC interviews the rider, other riders, ride managers, vets, reviews weather conditions, how many vet checks, humidity, terrain, feed, electrolytes, etc. and record all this for future study, looking for patterns, and ways to prevent horses from "falling over the edge". They look at the experience of the rider, the experience of the horse, and the experience of the rider with "that" horse. For example, a look at the metabolic pull rates where a horse died might tell us that we were lucky there was only one death at that ride. An investigation of a horse death might result in an additional investigation as to why the pull rates were so high at that ride. Once we have compiled a database over many years, we might be able to see a "pattern" that some tiny tweaking of the rules or procedures would break. Then when a rule change WAS proposed, we would have statistical data to back up the proposal, justifying the rule change. In the meantime, the HWC reports their findings to the BoD and the membership and makes recommendations to the Education Committee regarding training and conditioning articles and other information that needs to get out to the members. We can also share that database with other organizations through grants for even greater benefits. The Education Committee would also have reference data to determine what conditioning and training articles are most needed to help riders safely compete their horses. Stagg Newman has written some really good articles for EN lately on getting your horse through a ride. The welfare of the horse is the rider's responsibility, but it is AERC's responsibility to the membership to provide them....and our ride vets...with as much data as possible to help them make informed decisions. At some point, we may wish to expand this to study to metabolic pulls to help us better recognize when a horse is in distress. SERA already has a scale and is working on purchasing a blood analysis machine. Each and every one of us should "do our homework" and take advantage of the data, training and equipment available to us. After all, it's about the horse....my world would be pretty empty without mine. Jim, Sun of Dimanche+, and Mahada Magic Subject: [RC] Question Please Reply to: John Bass jbass@xxxxxxxxxxxx or ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ========================================== The Vet Committee makes a report on a horse fatality. How much information is expected without a necropsy? Must be difficult to pinpoint a cause without one (a necropsy). Anything else is just speculation. John =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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