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Hi Joe,

  Try to remember that comments like the one below aren't actually critical of Mr 
Ivers.  They are insults to those who have benefited from his expertise, like Karen.

Joe Long wrote:
> As Lincoln said, you can fool all of the people some of the time, but it's a
> shame that there are people who actually fall for your snake oil.


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