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RE: [RC] Biltmore vets - Nancy SturmWe went to one ride this year where the vet (an absolute favorite of ours) practically did a pre-purchase. He's a very personable guy and does great explanations - sort of a teaching type vet. The lines just lasted forever. However, later in the summer, when my daughter decided to purchase the horse she'd been riding, she opted out of a pre-purchase, since having vetted through this guy and several others, she decided the horse was probably sound for her purpose. Nancy Sturm [Original Message] From: Jim Holland <lanconn@xxxxxxx> To: Ridecamp Guest <guest-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: 9/28/2005 6:16:52 AM Subject: RE: [RC] Biltmore vets I heard several people at the ride comment on this, and the vets were doing a lot of exit CRI's, which is not a bad thing. The weather was very hot, humid, with no breeze at Biltmore. The vets may have over reacted a little, I think. The pulse criteria was changed to 60 across the board at the meeting, for 50's and 25's. I'm not sure this is beneficial since it changes the "relative" CRI values, but as long as you KNOW that, you can ride accordingly. Don't be too critical here and as Barney pointed out, just fill out a ride evaluation or stop by and talk with the RM before you leave. My experience was kind of interesting. Magic and I did not finish, and I was riding "turtle" all day. At the halfway point we were all A's with a great CRI. Seventeen miles later at the 3rd check with 10 miles left, it was miserably hot, Magic was very hot,(he has added some winter coat)our wash water was warm, and he was slow to recover. He was happy, very forward, drinking from hoofprints and everything else and eating on the trail and in camp. Since we were crewing right next to the P@R,I took all of the 30 minutes to let him stand quietly and eat. He did a nice trot out, got good scores, and the CRI numbers were equal, but higher than I liked. Joan and I had discussed pulling, or maybe staying longer at the hold...we had plenty of time to do 10 miles. The vet was young, and obviously not experienced and wanted to hold my card for a recheck, which was appropriate and fine with me. I was certainly not in a hurry. THEN the vet said I didn't meet criteria anyway, since "I didn't get through the vet check in 30 minutes because the recheck added time and I had already used all of my 30 minutes". I respectfully explained that this is not the rule and that you have to get through P@R in 30 minutes, not the vet check, but the vet didn't want to hear that and was adamant that I was wrong. Rather than argue and since I have been having some medical problems myself lately, I just said "Thank you for your help, Magic and I will just quit here." We can always use more vets, and confrontations are not constructive here. I think the intentions were good. Just discuss it with the RM and let's fix it. Jim, Sun of Dimanche+, and Mahada Magic Richard T. "Jim" Holland Three Creeks Farm 175 Hells Hollow Drive Blue Ridge, Ga 30513 (706) 258-2830 www.threecreeksarabians.com Callsign KI4BEN -----Original Message----- From: ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ridecamp Guest Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 4:59 AM To: ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [RC] Biltmore vets Please Reply to: Dennis Farnham dfarnham09@xxxxxxx or ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ========================================== I second your thoughts 100% concerning the one vet we were subjected to. We are relative newbies to seriously competing at endurance rides...took three years get the horse prepared to do so. Anyway, we will definitely be calling ahead on any future rides to make sure that we do not waste time, effort or money to participate in any rides where this vet is practicing "obstructionist" examinations. We observed what retrospectively appeared to be his "vetchecks to influence outcomes" style the week before at another ride. We were warned at that ride but were too naive to listen...could have saved a lot of gas. Definitely disappointed but definitely wiser, Dennis =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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