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Good timing. I just gave my mare and colt their we,ee,tet. and they both 
have lumps, the mare 's about 8" around the site, the colts less. I did the 
other two geldings  about a month ago, no reaction at site. HHHmmm could it 
concide with all the shedding? Mine wre INtervet--Incevec--T . All On neck.

> From: "Susan E. Garlinghouse, D.V.M." <suendavid@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Reply-To: <suendavid@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "'Rae Callaway'" <tallcarabians@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>,<ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: RE: [RC]   West Nile Virus - Adverse Reaction
> Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 06:33:32 -0700
>
> If you mean right after injecting, no, I don't think so.  Soreness usually
> shows up the next day or so, and is due to the adjuvant added to most
> vaccines.  Adjuvant is something intended to cause a mild local 
> inflammatory
> reaction, which in turn helps boost the overall immune response.  At *that*
> point some massage may be helpful, but again, I prefer injecting in the
> pecs, then "massaging" the soreness with light exercise.  Much harder to do
> that in the neck area.
>
>
>
> Susan Garlinghouse, DVM, MS
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>   _____
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> From: Rae Callaway [mailto:tallcarabians@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 2:53 AM
> To: suendavid@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [RC] West Nile Virus - Adverse Reaction
>
>
>
> Does it do any good to massage the injection site after a shot?  Or is that
> just something that makes "me" feel better?
>
>
>
> Rae
> Tall C Arabians - SE Texas
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Susan <mailto:suendavid@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>  E. Garlinghouse, D.V.M.
>
> To: 'Sisu West Ranch' <mailto:ranch@xxxxxxxxxxx>  ; 'Lari Shea'
> <mailto:larishea@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>  ; ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 11:32 PM
>
> Subject: RE: [RC] West Nile Virus - Adverse Reaction
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> Subject: Re: [RC] West Nile Virus - Adverse Reaction
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> Immediate disclaimer:  I am not a VET or any other medical practicionar.
>
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> What you experienced sounds to me to be associated with percing the skin 
> and
> dragging bacteria into the wound, not WN vaccine.  Or in otherwords, it was
> just pure bad luck that the absesses happened with WN vaccine they could
> have happened with any injection.
>
>
>
> Ed
>
> Ed & Wendy Hauser
>
>
>
> I agree with Ed (and I *am* a vet, <vbg>)  You will occasionally get an
> abscess any time you punch through the skin layers.  There are arguments
> both for and against swabbing first with a disinfectant --- one side says 
> it
> just puts surface dirt and bacteria into suspension, thus more easily 
> poking
> it down into the muscle; the other side says it at least wipes off some of
> the crud, if not truly disinfects it.  In reality, disinfectants don't
> sterilize the surface instantly, it takes 5-10 minutes and even then isn't
> perfect.
>
>
>
> We still swab the skin with some dilute Nolvasan before injections, and my
> preference remains injecting into the pectoral muscles --- soreness is
> easier to work out with even light lunging or riding, abscesses drain much
> better due to gravity afforded by the ventral position; and worst case, any
> resulting scars are less obvious on the chest than on the neck.
>
>
>
> Susan Garlinghouse, DVM, MS



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