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Re: [RC] Buying/selling horses - Bette Lamore

I have to laugh, Heidi
I was wondering if you could refrain from bashing any of my posts just once and since I didn't see any of yours recently, I thought this one just might slip by. I was wrong--- always vigilant... always predictable.
I guess not all of us can afford to keep anymore offspring as some of us have monetary constraints that limit us. I happen to have all the quality I need now-- hard to imagine that I am still not satisfied-- and cannot wait until full maturity to evaluate all offspring. If my clients get better quality than me--- hooray for them!!! Hopefully they will promote the lines and I still win!
Now the only thing is to wait for your reply to this ;-)
Bette the producer??? breeder??? idiot for keeping on posting to this email group??? I guess it is time to put you back on my DWP list (delete without reading) :-) so fire away and don't expect a response. I do not enjoy being placed in the position of having to defend myself every time I post. I know that I am not always right; however, I also know that by sheer laws of averages, I am not always wrong as you intimate. :-)
heidi@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:


Amen to you Chris!
I feel the same way and do the same as you do-- with one exception-- I
have a buyer for my horse before it hits the ground.



Herein, though, lies the philosophical difference between a "breeder" and a "producer." As a longterm "breeder," ALL of my matings are done with the thought of how the foal will fit into and contribute to the long-term breeding program. The key to the program is that one produces horses with consistently useful traits. BUT--NO foal of mine is ever for sale prior to birth. ALL foals are considered in the context of the future of the program before ANY are offered for sale. I have turned down more sales than I can count because the horses were key to the future of the overall program. And if I sold them, I can't guarantee I can replace them. They only become sale horses when there reaches a degree of genetic redundancy in the program that I can pick and choose--and then some of them can go find jobs.

SH Frisky Affair is a good example of this--she is the mare that Karen
Chaton recently posted about that just won overall fastest time on one of
the recent multidays. She was only for sale because I had five mares by
her sire, and in two cases, the mares were out of closely related dams. So I kept three, and sold one from each "redundant" pair. (The other one
went into an endurance breeding program.)


Additionally, the buyer does not have the risk of a sight unseen
foal--they get a mature horse ready to go, and they can see what they are
getting.

I had a buyer this year really eager to buy a Junior foal out of one of
our leased mares before it was born--but I worked too darn hard to get
that mare line into my herd, and there is NO WAY on God's green earth that
I'd part with the filly that she had.  If I get another one out of the
same mare, then (and only then!) might one be for sale.

I could probably pay the bills easier if I would just put price tags on
everything and let buyers just come shopping.  But I still want to be
breeding at this caliber (and better!) in another 30 years, and to do
that, I simply CAN'T rip the guts out of the program by selling foals that
are integral to its future.

Heidi







-- Bette Lamore Whispering Oaks Arabians Home of Bunny and 16.2h TLA Halynov who lives on through his legacy Hal's Riverdance! http://www.arabiansporthorse.com

Always remember: "Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away." (George Carlin)




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Replies
Re: [RC] Buying/selling horses, Chris Paus
Re: [RC] Buying/selling horses, Bette Lamore
Re: [RC] Buying/selling horses, heidi