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Re: [RC] Horse Buying - Truman Prevatt

Actually no matter how careful you are, how you study the bloodlines, how many things you do right - you still don't have a guarenteed endurance horse or race horse for that matter. If so scientists would dominate TB racing, be rich and not have to spend their lives in the hall of academia.  It all rolls around to one big crap shoot.

Then that is assuming your prize foal doesn't take a freak fall in a rain storm at five weeks and break it's leg! 

Your numbers aren't even close - they don't take into account the overhead associated with breeding - the extra barn space, the extra pasture, the video system to monitor the mares, the medication you are one to keep you from going bonkers during the first the breeding and second the foaling process.

Even in TB racing where there is money - most that try lose their shirts. The only reason people breed endurance horses is for the love of the breeding, being around the horses and to see if their theories are correct - it's not for the money and it is 99 times out of 100 most likely a poor business decision.

Why do people breed their prized mare - one who most likely got them down the trail many miles - because they want part of her to get them on down the trail. Rational - maybe yes maybe no - but what about breeding for this sport is rational?

As far a PP exams. I've had two horses pass with flying colors that I later had to find a new job for. The one we didn't get a PP exam on my wife fell in love with and no logic would get in the way. Come next year the Jbird with have done an endurance ride for 10 consecutive years. Not as many miles as I would like but that's not his fault - changing jobs, quitting job, building a house and starting company, him getting West Nile, etc. Of course during the times I was the most preoccupied his conditioning was what didn't get done - but he kept on trucking. Yes you can take a horse with insufficient conditioning out of the pasture and do 25 you can even do 50! But we're very proud of the old boy who did it without the blessing of a vet based on my wife's intuition and instant love for the horse.

Some times you have to go with your gut on these issues - not to say PP exams aren't importnat - but their another piece of info that goes into the hopper for the final decision. I'm happy we didn't get a PP on the Jbird because I am sure he would have not come out at the top of his class but by golly he's withstood the test of time.

Hope everyone had a good weekend.
Truman

Lif Strand wrote:
At 02:43 PM 7/18/2004, Jody Rogers-Buttram wrote:
This is why I like to raise my own replacements.  Your right Roger, buying and paying a lot for an endurance prospect is a big deal.  I personally can't afford to pay the 3k and up for a horse.

As a person who was (no longer am) breeding horses for distance riding/competition for about 20 years, I do have a bit of a disagreement with your position.  Let's say you decide to breed your own.  Let's say it only costs you $75/month to care for a horse - an incredibly low amount - and that includes feed, farrier, worming, shots and everything, and you do your own training.

Mare pregnant one year:  $900
Foal fed through 3 yrs:   $2700
Total cost to beginning of foal's 4th year:  $3600

Now you've already paid out more than you said you'd be willing to pay for someone else's horses - but you don't have a guaranteed endurance horse anyway.  Some foals just don't grow up to be endurance horses, no matter how good the sire and dam.  So instead of having a choice among horses that look like good prospects, maybe have even done a ride or more, you're stuck with a horse that isn't suitable.

If there were guarantees that every foal from a great mare and a great stallion would be a great horse too, everyone who was into breeding would be rich.  When it comes to genetics, nothing is simple.

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"It is necessary to be noble, and yet take humility as a basis

   "It is necessary to be noble, and yet take humility as a basis.

    It is necessary to be exalted, and yet take modesty as a foundation."

 


Replies
[RC] Horse Buying, Roger Rittenhouse
Re: [RC] Horse Buying, Jody Rogers-Buttram
Re: [RC] Horse Buying, Lif Strand