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RE: [RC] Equine Nosebleed - Libby & Quentin Llop DVM

Four thoughts beside bleeding abnormality:  Tumor, Inhalled foreign body
lodged in nose, Infection- bacterial & Infection - Fungal.  Diagnosis is
obviously not simple.  I would start by looking for common similar patterns
in other types of local livestock.

Quentin

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From: ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Maryanne Stroud
Gabbani
Sent: Monday, May 31, 2004 2:35 PM
To: Ridecamp
Cc: VetMed
Subject: [RC] Equine Nosebleed


Last night my neighbour was up all night with his wife's horse, a
retired French Trotter, who is at least 15 years old.  The horse,
Cisbeo, is a fit, well-cared for and well rounded gelding. He does some
trail riding, works dressage, and does small jumps. He isn't working
very hard these days since his owner is in France for a month doing
exams.  He has previously had nosebleeds that initially seemed to be
connected to work in heat.  Then he had some nosebleeds when he was in
the box and the weather was hot.  Last night about 11:30 his nose
started bleeding and didn't stop bleeding until morning.  It's
relatively cool at night here right now, about 20 C.  (That's in the
low 70's I think.) Morad gave him a shot of Vitamin K (horse sized)
which didn't really make much difference. The bleeding wasn't life
threatening, but Morad is worried about the possible cause of the
bleeding.  Previously it was happening in a much more minor degree when
he was in the box and the weather was hot.  Working isn't a factor. The
obvious thing is to leave Cisbeo outside as much as possible, but that
still doesn't answer the question.  Are there any tests, blood or
otherwise, that we could do that might help tell us what is going on?
Any suggestins gratefully received.

BTW, his vet is currently in the US for the next month studying sugical
techniques and there really isn't another decent one around.  So
calling the vet is out.  One thing that Morad did do was following a
suggestion from Tom Ivers' book, The Fit Race Horse, which was to place
a tampon on which some adrenaline had been dropped. This is supposed to
help nosebleeds that originate in the lungs.  He wasn't impressed.

Maryanne
Cairo, Egypt

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