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RE: [RC] [RC] AERC Convention - Laurie Underwood

Just because Alex has heard that language before doesn't mean she should
have to or wants to.  I work in an office where the "F" is used
profusely.  Does that mean since I hear it all the time I should accept
it whenever I hear it?  In the office I handle it by getting up and
shutting the door of the person doing the swearing, and that includes
the owner of the company for whom I work.

Your reference to the "16 year old, super rider" is a bit rude, Howard.
It's not a matter of lightening up.  It's a matter of respect.  Good for
Alex for having self respect.

Just my 2 cents worth.

Laurie Underwood

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From: ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Howard Bramhall
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 1:15 AM
To: ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [RC] [RC] AERC Convention

By golly, I got to agree with Joe on this one.  I had the chance to hear
the 
woman in question last year at the convention and she was incredibly
funny.  
The best way to eliminate talent like that is to pretend you're all
offended 
by it even though you still chuckled at some of the things she says.

Look, we could all be dead tomorrow (and in this day and age that's no 
exaggeration).  Lighten the heck up.  I'm sorry the 16 year old, super 
endurance rider was offended, but, if she's been doing endurance and
hanging 
around all those grown ups for all those years, I can't believe this was
the 
first time she's heard language like that.

cya,
Howard (did Gambler Joe meet Jim Holland at this year's Convention; if
so, 
how'd that go?)


From: Joe Long <jlong@xxxxxxxx>
Reply-To: jlong@xxxxxxxx
To: <ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [RC]   AERC Convention Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 13:13:11
-0700

On Sat, 13 Mar 2004 07:29:51 -0800, "Jeanne Slominski"
<endurancemorgan1@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

My sister and I were sitting a few tables away from you. We did laugh
at 
the crude jokes, but also realized that they were not meant for young 
people. Good for you for speaking up. It seemed pretty obvious that she
was 
asked to tone it down, which she didn't do.

Well, I don't know.  When I heard some of the jokes at the banquet, I
thought "Here we go again."  The same complaints were heard following
some of the previous Conventions, and I know that in at least one case
the MC was hurt by the criticisim.

Yes, there are children in the audience.  However, it is primarily an
adult function.  And the young folks in the audience hear a lot worse
every day at school, from their peers!

So, were  a few of the jokes a little "blue" for an audience with
children?  Maybe so, but not enough IMO for folks to get their
knickers in a twist about it.

Just my two cents.

--

Joe Long
jlong@xxxxxxxx
http://www.rnbw.com

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