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Re: [RC] Preventing Treated Horses - Stagg_Newman


Thanks for the idea.   You may want to take a look at the proposal of
Mathew MacKay Smith's
(HOF AERC Vet and rider and only person to have won both Tevis and OD in
the same year
on the same horse).  Mathew also has a proposal to elimiate racing
by creating broad categories.  I do not have a copy of his proposal but
believe it was EN not too far back.

One key question is whether  a majority of the membership would support
such a proposal.

I am not sure that eliminating placings would eliminate 90% of treated
horses.  Frequently
the treated horses are not front runners but rather middle of the pack
horses who just
are not right that day or who are unconsiously being overridden for what
they can do.
( Heidi, you have vetted many rides, any thoughts on whether most horses
needing treatment
are front running or further back?)

One of the problems I believe we have is we do not have good data on which
horses are
being treated, where they were in the ride, both in places, and in miles
into ride,
which rides (LD, 50s, or 100s), etc.  As Jeanie says, we just don't know.

I have certainly seen cases where overriding has led to need for treatment.
But I have also known
many cases where horses needing treatment were in the middle of the pack
and were
not apparently being overridden.   In fact  at the  '96 World Championship,
where I was
on the Appeals Committe,  several of the  horses that got into trouble were
the ones trying to make
the maximum time (19 hours I believe) i.e. at the back of the pack.

So one thing we need is better data.

So my hypotheses is we still need to consider  the combination of exit
checks and better rider education
to try to prevent treatmet of many of the horses that "surprise us".  Some
days our horses may just
not be right but they cannot tell us or we do not know how to listen well



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                    02/12/2003            Subject:     Re: [RC]
Preventing Treated Horses at Rides - Ideas Please
                    08:18 PM

Eliminate placings except for BC!!!!!!!!!!!
That would take care of 90% treated horses...people would ride slower.
Do top 10 for BC only.


Linda Eisele & LS Lakota
hubby Allen & LS Iceman
2 great sons-Blue & Nick
canine Scooby, feline Tuna
Reno, Nevada

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